BTCC 2012 rumour mill - Page 7

MJones94 · 30 Sep 2011, 06:40 (Ref:2962817)

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Originally Posted by Sodemo

Would love to see a few BMW NGTC cars.

Definately, I wonder if the body shell would look any different as an NGTC shell compared to the current S2000 shell.

Is there any word of any new manufactures entering the BTCC next year or 2013 as a works team? I reckon if either or even both Dynojet and RAR get a few wins in the last few rounds they-might attract attention from the companies.

**John Turner** · 30 Sep 2011, 08:39 (Ref:2962843)

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Originally Posted by Alfa Fan

Think about it, would they really have released that statement on Tuesday night, after Autosport's print deadline, if they were quitting. Autosport must be feeling a bit stupid now!

"This evening (Tuesday) the Banbury-based team announced it will build full-spec NGTC cars for 2012, albeit without naming any potential make or model."

So for all intents and purposes the Autosport story can be ignored. It was just them trying to make a story out of not a lot, and with the announcement that followed.....well it horribly backfired!!

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Originally Posted by c8nay

Maybe it was an off the cuff remark by Harrison that was made into the story by Autosport, Triple 8 got wind of it and put out the statement Tuesday to quash any rumours. Just like STR did the other week. Maybe they haven't got anything solid for next year yet or at a crucial stage of negotiating and feel that rumours of them quitting would put off or confuse potential backers.

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Originally Posted by Craner Curves

It's poor journalism by Autosport again. Just like the STR story the other week.

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Originally Posted by Alfa Fan

It's deliberately poor journalism really.. it makes it more of a story for them, then next week or the week after they can run another story saying 888 have "now decided to stay in the BTCC"

I'm sure my son will be delighted to learn that his journalism is so poorly regarded. Where do you think he gets his information from? These stories are not made up; it's hardly the fault of the scribe if things (apparently) get changed after going to press. I thank davyboy for a more considered approach. And just for the record, I think that unless you are actually a member of the teams in any sphere of motorsport, you'll find that the Autosport journalists are a lot closer to them than most of the rest of us are. It's part of the job.

steve_r · 6 Oct 2011, 08:47 (Ref:2966525)

The Pirtek team will run Dynamics NGTC Civics next season, with the same driver line up as this year. Story over on Crash.net now. Apparently they will run exactly the same cars as the "works" Dynamics team.

This is great news, Andrew Jordan is a decent driver, and it will be interesting to see him in what should be one of the very best cars on the grid.

Carsandmotorracing · 6 Oct 2011, 08:53 (Ref:2966527)

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Originally Posted by steve_r

The Pirtek team will run Dynamics NGTC Civics next season, with the same driver line up as this year. Story over on Crash.net now. Apparently they will run exactly the same cars as the "works" Dynamics team.

This is great news, Andrew Jordan is a decent driver, and it will be interesting to see him in what should be one of the very best cars on the grid.

That's fantastic!

davyboy · 6 Oct 2011, 12:31 (Ref:2966618)

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Originally Posted by davyboy

Hope not... it's an awful looking road car !

I wouldn't be surprised if it was one of the new Civics. The Jordan's have had close ties with Dynamics before and it would make business sense for Dynamics to produce and sell the Civics as well as running a works outfit.

Telepathy... or maybe they're reading this thread

**touringlegend** · 6 Oct 2011, 13:13 (Ref:2966643)

The other good news in that announcement is that Pirtek have signed up to a 2 year deal with the team.

**FIRE** · 6 Oct 2011, 16:34 (Ref:2966722)

medius · 6 Oct 2011, 18:06 (Ref:2966764)

Excellent news about Pirtek/Eurotech. Their Civic could be one of the best looking cars on the grid. Updated the table now Triple 8 have confirmed their switch to NGTC along with Eurotech. Also, on Tin Top Tuesday, Rob Collard said he wanted to stay with WSR, and they are both looking at NGTC machinery rather than going down the GSR route of putting an NGTC engine into an S2000 shell. NGTC BMW was mentioned a couple of times.

Driver	Team	Car	Engine	Status
Matt Neal	Honda Racing (Team Dynamics)	Honda Civic NGTC	NGTC Neil Brown	confirmed
Gordon Shedden	Honda Racing (Team Dynamics)	Honda Civic NGTC	NGTC Neil Brown	confirmed
Jason Plato	Silverline (RML)	Chevrolet Cruze S2000	NGTC (?)	probable
Alex MacDowell?	Silverline (RML)	Chevrolet Cruze S2000	NGTC (?)	probable
Paul O'Neill?	GoMobile (Techspeed)	Chevrolet Cruze S2000	NGTC (?)	probable
John George?	GoMobile (Techspeed)	Chevrolet Cruze S2000	NGTC (?)	probable
Andrew Jordan	Pirtek Racing	Honda Civic NGTC	NGTC Neil Brown	confirmed
Jeff Smith	Pirtek Racing	Honda Civic NGTC	NGTC Neil Brown	confirmed
James Nash?	Triple 8	NGTC TBA	NGTC TBA	confirmed
TBA	Triple 8	NGTC TBA	NGTC TBA	probable
Tom Chilton?	Team Aon (Arena Motorsport)	Ford Focus S2000	NGTC Mountune	likely
Ton Onslow-Cole?	Team Aon (Arena Motorsport)	Ford Focus S2000	NGTC Mountune	likely
Andy Neate?	Team Aon (Arena Motorsport)	Ford Focus S2000	NGTC Mountune	likely
Mat Jackson	Airwaves Racing (Motorbase)	Ford Focus S2000	NGTC Mountune	likely
TBA	Airwaves Racing (Motorbase)	Ford Focus S2000	NGTC Mountune	likely
TBA	Airwaves Racing (Motorbase)	Ford Focus S2000	NGTC Mountune	possible
Rob Collard?	eBay Motors (WSR)	BMW 320si S2000	NGTC Swindon?	probable
TBA	eBay Motors (WSR)	BMW 320si S2000	NGTC Swindon?	probable
Tony Gilham?	Geoff Steel Racing	BMW 320si S2000	NGTC Swindon	possible
TBA	Geoff Steel Racing	BMW 320si S2000	NGTC Swindon	possible
(Martin Byford? Jake Hill?)	AmD/Milltek Racing	Volkswagen Golf S2000	NGTC Lehmann	likely
Tony Hughes	Speedworks Motorsport	Toyota Avensis NGTC	NGTC Swindon	likely
Rob Austin	Rob Austin Racing	Audi A4 NGTC	NGTC Lehmann	likely
Chris Swanick?	Rob Austin Racing	Audi A4 NGTC	NGTC Lehmann	probable
Frank Wrathall Jr	Dynojet	Toyota Avensis NGTC	NGTC X-CTech-R	likely
Tom Boardman	Special Tuning Racing	SEAT Leon S2000	NGTC Lehmann	confirmed
Dave Newsham?	Special Tuning Racing	SEAT Leon S2000	NGTC Lehmann	probable
TBA	Special Tuning Racing	SEAT Leon S2000	NGTC Lehmann	possible
Dan Welch	Marriott (Welch Motorsport)	Proton Gen 2 NGTC	NGTC Swindon	likely
Matt Hamilton	TH Motorsport	Skoda Octavia NGTC	NGTC Lehmann	confirmed
TBA	Thorney Motorsport	Vauxhall Insignia NGTC	NGTC Neil Brown	confirmed
Ginetta Supercup Champion	TBA	TBA	TBA	confirmed

In order of likeliness:

Confirmed = Confirmed by team on news sites
Likely = Everything in place, just waiting on confirmation
Probable = Unless radical things happen, it should happen
Possible = Depends on funding and sponsors, but something has been said publicly

Thaw Daggerslash · 6 Oct 2011, 18:28 (Ref:2966776)

I think it is likely that Foster will remain alongside Collard at WSR. Ben Edwards mentioned it briefly in the third race at Brands when he was on pole, saying Nick's viewing it as a three year campaign.

Plus I believe Welch Motorsport and TH Motorsport have said they aim to run two car teams next year.

Edit - just seen this from Dave Newsham's Twitter. Someone asked him whether they'd be moving to NGTC:

"It's big money, here's hoping."

VXDave · 6 Oct 2011, 19:37 (Ref:2966817)

Gio was guest of 888 at Brands http://www.facebook.com/#!/888race.
Did anyone see the interview on ITV? I missed it as I was at brands...

Andrew Abbott · 6 Oct 2011, 19:54 (Ref:2966823)

Motorbase's Focus' are for sale in Autosport so they won't be running them next year.

Thaw Daggerslash · 6 Oct 2011, 19:54 (Ref:2966824)

Yes, it was discussed in the Brands thread.

davidjones · 7 Oct 2011, 00:35 (Ref:2966918)

From Touring Car Times....

"Motorbase Performance have put up for sale their three Ford Focus STs, acquired just at the beginning of the year, with Ford known to be pushing for them to switch to the New Focus for 2012 after another strong season for the Wrotham-based independent team, whilst the other Ford team Arena seek to jump to the World Touring Car Championship."

That Implies to me that maybe Arena will still be off to the WTCC, and that will leave Motorbase as a semi works team in the BTCC either building an NGTC ford, or running Arena's Global Focus from this year.

crmalcolm · 7 Oct 2011, 07:25 (Ref:2966971)

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Originally Posted by medius

Rob Collard said he wanted to stay with WSR, and they are both looking at NGTC machinery rather than going down the GSR route of putting an NGTC engine into an S2000 shell. NGTC BMW was mentioned a couple of times.

Driver	Team	Car	Engine	Status
Rob Collard?	eBay Motors (WSR)	BMW 320si S2000	NGTC Swindon?	probable
TBA	eBay Motors (WSR)	BMW 320si S2000	NGTC Swindon?	probable

Shouldn't this be

Driver	Team	Car	Engine	Status
Rob Collard?	eBay Motors (WSR)	BMW NGTC (?)	NGTC Swindon?	probable
TBA	eBay Motors (WSR)	BMW NGTC (?)	NGTC Swindon?	probable

medius · 7 Oct 2011, 14:41 (Ref:2967170)

Da-na-na-na-na-na-na-na THORNEY!!!

Looks brilliant.

Speed-King · 7 Oct 2011, 14:48 (Ref:2967175)

Holy Wheel-arches, Batman!

davyboy · 7 Oct 2011, 19:08 (Ref:2967272)

Still think Munich did the best Batmobile in the early 1970s

A very good effort on the Insignia though... maybe Vauxhall could learn a lesson on how to make the road car better looking.

Thaw Daggerslash · 7 Oct 2011, 19:37 (Ref:2967287)

Nice looking car for a Vauxhall!

Just one thing though - thought they were aiming for two cars out at Silverstone? Guess they didn't get the second car ready in time, but great effort none the less to get one car ready.

Andrew Abbott · 7 Oct 2011, 19:47 (Ref:2967293)

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Originally Posted by Thaw Daggerslash

Nice looking car for a Vauxhall!

Just one thing though - thought they were aiming for two cars out at Silverstone? Guess they didn't get the second car ready in time, but great effort none the less to get one car ready.

It was never the plan - although they do plan to build two or more for 2012.

http://www.touring-cars.net/2011/09/...ogressing-well

Thaw Daggerslash · 7 Oct 2011, 21:16 (Ref:2967338)

Ah, okay, thanks. Must have mis-read.

medius · 15 Oct 2011, 21:23 (Ref:2971684)

''Created by the team at GPR Motorsport, the chassis development experts behind the ‘Next Generation Touring Car’ concept, the 2012 Avensis is expected to offer significant benefits when it hits the track.

“There is a lot more airflow through the new front end,” says GPRM’s Gary Blackham, “and that will aid engine cooling and performance, with more air flowing to the intercooler. But the new front end and styling changes are not the end of the story, because many lessons were learned during the Toyota’s maiden season of competition and there are significant changes under the skin also.”''

http://blog.toyota.co.uk/new-toyota-...enger-unveiled

**touringlegend** · 15 Oct 2011, 21:26 (Ref:2971686)

I didn't even realise there was going to be an updated Avensis built. Where is the money coming from for all this?

auroan · 17 Oct 2011, 08:55 (Ref:2972505)

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Originally Posted by touringlegend

I didn't even realise there was going to be an updated Avensis built. Where is the money coming from for all this?

Toyota ?

duke_toaster · 17 Oct 2011, 12:01 (Ref:2972604)

Would it be too much to not rule out a Toyota semi-factory effort?

andy97 · 17 Oct 2011, 12:43 (Ref:2972627)

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Originally Posted by duke_toaster

Would it be too much to not rule out a Toyota semi-factory effort?

I think they have already provided some support to Frank Wrathall, particularly on engine development.

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