FIA GT World Championship 2012 - Page 7

rich07 · 24 Sep 2011, 01:48 (Ref:2960255)

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Originally Posted by alexkiller8

well, so also the presence of GT1 cars has no sense because aston/corvette/lambo/nissan/ford also have gt3 models! so why a team should use at example a lambo RSV with rare spare parts, when can buy cheaper and better assisted gallardo 600+ if the performances will be comparated?

Exactly.

The same also applies with Nissan and Ford-why should they use their more expensive to race and maintain GT1 cars when they have GT3 cars to race using the same roadcar as a base model. I really cant see anyone running the Murcielagos again when the Gallardos are cheaper to run and maintain which is a massive shame as those Murcielagos are synonomous with real GT1.

I like the idea of a World GT championship but GT1 should be the top class not GT3 cars (as much as I like those GT3 cars too).

Mt. Lynx · 24 Sep 2011, 08:55 (Ref:2960305)

Reiter was once asked why he insisted on using the more expensive Murcielago, instead of upgrading a Gallardo, and the answer was aerodynamics. The Murcie is simply larger and can therefore produce more DF.

And I don´t think any of the three championships will detract from one another, They all appeal to different teams. Some wants the world title, some wants endurance, and others can´t afford a full on attack on the WC.

Next year will probably be a bit... off... but I think it will all come together by 2013.

Deleted · 24 Sep 2011, 09:38 (Ref:2960317)

Also, the Murciealago has been "given" the best weight-restrictor ratio of all GT1 cars (plus they have that enormous rear wing), I can't say the same for the Gallardo.

I Rosputnik · 5 Oct 2011, 20:42 (Ref:2966275)

Why GTWC is now using GT3's.

To be honest I wonder if this series is becoming more like Trans-Am, which isn't a bad thing, but I do hope they keep an eye on the costs of the cars.

alexkiller8 · 5 Oct 2011, 21:49 (Ref:2966314)

but in next year, most of grid will be updated gt3 cars! detuned gt1 cars will survive in 2012 just because some team like all-ink, young driver etc.... still use gt1 cars and don't have plains for a gt3 entry

I Rosputnik · 11 Oct 2011, 08:13 (Ref:2969111)

Looks like Hexis are trying to return next year with a new manufacturer. (In French)

Failing that, Hexis say they look at the Blancpain Endurance Series or WEC.

NelisB · 11 Oct 2011, 08:41 (Ref:2969125)

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Originally Posted by I Rosputnik

Looks like Hexis are trying to return next year with a new manufacturer. (In French)

Failing that, Hexis say they look at the Blancpain Endurance Series or WEC.

Would love to see them in the WEC instead of the BES or WGT.

lms · 12 Oct 2011, 14:09 (Ref:2969926)

no marc vds next year according to this

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/95286

they just do blancpain es

NelisB · 12 Oct 2011, 14:40 (Ref:2969931)

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Originally Posted by lms

no marc vds next year according to this

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/95286

they just do blancpain es

That's it for the MarcVDS autosport squad or the whole of MarcVDS and thus meaning no motorcycles?

Victor_RO · 12 Oct 2011, 15:01 (Ref:2969954)

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Originally Posted by NelisB

That's it for the MarcVDS autosport squad or the whole of MarcVDS and thus meaning no motorcycles?

No, just no more participation in the GT World Championship.

Speed-King · 12 Oct 2011, 15:14 (Ref:2969963)

Alright, that's it for the GT World Championship, then. Much as it pains me to say... but I can't see Ratel rebounding from that.

Pandamasque · 12 Oct 2011, 16:12 (Ref:2969989)

If the series is to be GT3 based how come at no point there was any mention of teams with Porsches and Ferraris?

Victor_RO · 12 Oct 2011, 16:23 (Ref:2969991)

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Originally Posted by Pandamasque

If the series is to be GT3 based how come at no point there was any mention of teams with Porsches and Ferraris?

I think a team may be running 458 GT3s, possibly AF Corse or Vita4One. Porsches... erm, no.

alexkiller8 · 12 Oct 2011, 16:37 (Ref:2969999)

vita4one will run with a pair of their 458gt3, no plains for porsche till now.

NightStalk3r · 12 Oct 2011, 18:06 (Ref:2970039)

I would be VERY surprised if Prospeed or Muehlner are not there next year.

alexkiller8 · 12 Oct 2011, 19:15 (Ref:2970085)

prospeed surely will be in fia gt3 champ, muehlner too or maybe just in adac gt masters. Both of them may enter in BES or just in some race.

FordCosworthPanoz · 12 Oct 2011, 19:18 (Ref:2970089)

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Originally Posted by lms

no marc vds next year according to this

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/95286

they just do blancpain es

Going to bet you this wont be the last one.

JAG · 12 Oct 2011, 19:19 (Ref:2970090)

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Originally Posted by Victor_RO

I think a team may be running 458 GT3s, possibly AF Corse or Vita4One. Porsches... erm, no.

AF Corse were rumoured to be running versions of the 458 GTE, then GT3, but they pulled out.

Ratel needs around twenty cars, either ten teams with two cars each, or fewer teams running three cars. Not everyone was willing to run three cars so the series switched to GT3 based regs to attract more teams and brands.

Last I read he had around fourteen cars including MarcVDS.

gert · 15 Oct 2011, 20:08 (Ref:2971652)

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Originally Posted by JAG

Last I read he had around fourteen cars including MarcVDS.

Did those 14 include 2 or 4 MarcVDS cars? AFAIK the MarcVDS-run Belgain Racing is out too...

FordCosworthPanoz · 16 Oct 2011, 01:58 (Ref:2971753)

2x Vita 4 One (Ferrari)
2x JRM Motorsport (Nissan)
2x WRT (Audi)
2x ALL INKL.com Racing (Lamborghini)
2x Young Driver AMR (Aston Martin)
2x Marc VDS (BMW)
2x Belgian Racing (Ford)

Scratch the final two now and you have 10 confirmed cars for next year, hearing one of those teams may also focus on Blancpain and European GT program as well, dropping GT WC. Looks like its setting up to be yet another highly successful season...

rich07 · 16 Oct 2011, 02:04 (Ref:2971754)

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Originally Posted by FordCosworthPanoz

2x Vita 4 One (Ferrari)
2x JRM Motorsport (Nissan)
2x WRT (Audi)
2x ALL INKL.com Racing (Lamborghini)
2x Young Driver AMR (Aston Martin)
2x Marc VDS (BMW)
2x Belgian Racing (Ford)

Scratch the final two now and you have 10 confirmed cars for next year, hearing one of those teams may also focus on Blancpain and European GT program as well, dropping GT WC. Looks like its setting up to be yet another highly successful season...

Which team did you hear about? Im guessing its either WRT or Inkl seeing as though JRM and Young Driver are pretty certain starters for next year thanks to their ties with the factory.

FordCosworthPanoz · 16 Oct 2011, 02:14 (Ref:2971757)

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Originally Posted by rich07

Which team did you hear about? Im guessing its either WRT or Inkl seeing as though JRM and Young Driver are pretty certain starters for next year thanks to their ties with the factory.

WRT.

rich07 · 16 Oct 2011, 02:26 (Ref:2971759)

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Originally Posted by FordCosworthPanoz

WRT.

Maybe Audi are jumping out before the ship sinks?

AndrewF31 · 16 Oct 2011, 19:33 (Ref:2972080)

Why doesn't Ratel just kill this horse? It was tough enough for Gt3 europe to get a healthy entry list this year and now he's trying to keep the lame horse alive with 'grandfathered' GT3s.
Should just focus on the Blancpain which is making a run for it.

I Rosputnik · 16 Oct 2011, 19:57 (Ref:2972092)

The greatest mistake Ratel made with the series was the whole two car per manufacturer rubbish. I love the idea of the GTWC, and think he made a good move going to a healthier class, but this and the BOP system just doesn't make sense.

I wonder then if we could see GTWC and Blancpain merge then.

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