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I'm next junction up, where AM make the road cars...
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3 Jan 2011, 02:59 (Ref:2810371) | #1852 | |
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the Aston LMP1 will be powered by a V6 turbo. no word on displacement
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3 Jan 2011, 08:40 (Ref:2810401) | #1853 | |
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Very likely they will go for the maximum allowed displacement which is 2 liters.
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A twin turbo V6 should be more competitive but in a perfect world I'd like to see an Aston V8 in there even if had no connection to the road car engine. EDIT: (I just read knighty's post above especially the last line-very interesting I wish you could say more too) You could probably destroke a Vantage engine but down to 3.4L? Would it be possible and even if it was I couldnt see it being competitive unfortunately. Oh well at least its not a diesel. |
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Someone destroked a Vantage V8 down to 3 liters for a car that was supposed to be run in the Nurburgring 24h, but the damn thing simply didn't want to stay reliable.
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I think you mean the Vantage from Team Schrick . Here you can find some Videos from this crazy Projekt .
http://www.dmax.de/video/team-schric...teil-1/#player |
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4 Jan 2011, 10:53 (Ref:2810921) | #1858 | |
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First Racing are going to run a Vantage in GT2 next year.
anyone know who they are and where they're running? under GT2 on the AMR season review |
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Love the way Aston Martin are publicly piling the pressure on the ACO at every opportunity with regard to 2011 LMP1 petrol/diesel equivalency. Two more references in the Season Review JayBMS linked to in his last post. Keep that pressure coming AMR!
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There are two First Racing teams that I am aware of:
1) The French Squad that's been running the GT2-Gallardo in the last few LMS-races 2) The Belcar-team that largely sat out 2010, but was rather successfull with running Porsches before that. |
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I remember when Hexis ran Muecke and Mako... Very encouraging. Then JMW bought in, and it got more developement bits from Aston...
I'd love to see a couple more out there, just for something that isn't a FIAT or VW! (Shame they're no longer owned by Ford, really...) |
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4 Jan 2011, 18:45 (Ref:2811122) | #1863 | |
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Yep really good news. And if it is the First team who run the Lambo, we could be in for some more Gulf Aston action.
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4 Jan 2011, 20:13 (Ref:2811169) | #1865 | |
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also we now have Muscle Milk AMR!! that car sould look great
http://www.amr-teams.co.uk/2011/01/m...ason-with.html |
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EDIT: Just read in the ALMS thread that It'll be a Lola. I wonder how it'll respond to the ALMS' rules, as those have yet to be fully finalized for the non-ILMC events. Last edited by chernaudi; 5 Jan 2011 at 01:17. |
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I wouldn't be surprised to see IMSA hold back until after Sebring to make full adjustments to the grandfathered LMPs. It should be at Sebring with its new spyder AMR LMP1 sibling, right? Making me consider the 9 hour drive down for the race, now if Audi hadn't held back the R18s.
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Muscle Milk. Wow. I did not see that coming at all. What a surprise, I had them marked down for a Porsche GT2 effort this year. Fantastic news, great for our American friends to hear the Aston V12 again (Im on the wrong continent ). |
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Well, Audi and AMR are running V6s in their new cars, but it's yet to be known if those engines are 120 deg V6s (balancing and CG) or 90deg odd firing V6s (which would require some pretty beefy mounting points and a stiff chassis to absorb the likely vibrations--unless the Audi diesel is a fairly low-reving engine).
Only thing I wonder about the AMR V6 is if it will be a single turbo engine, or do the new ACO rules allow for twin turbos on gasoline engines--the Audi may be twin turbo but it's a diesel, which is allowed twin turbos if it's a V engine, and single or twin it will be a VTG. If single turbo on the Aston, it'll either be VTG or, if legal (which I doubt and it's sort of undesireable anyways) WRC-type anti-lag. Else wise, turbo lag may be the byword there. Audi had some issues with it on early R8s (until the FSI engines), and it seems that Peugeot may've had issues--why the need for 6 speed gear box on the 908? I hope that AMR chose wisely here. |
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Will the new amr proto race at sebring??
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electronic boost assist to an existing turbo charged engine is the future, and this WILL be reflected in the 2013 F1 engine rules (just believe me!).......if someone wanted to introduce electronic boosting to LeMans I suspect the ACO would get a touch shirty as it contravines a few of the other rules........its also debatable how useful any boost assist is at lemans as this is the lower to medium working range of the engine, and lemans is basically a very fast circuit........but does have 6 or 7 slow corners, so never say never! Many WRC teams have successfully diverted plenum flow into the exhaust manifold flow during off-throttle events, via using a simple valve (like EGR in reverse) in order to keep the turbo spooling and air flowing, basically in an attempt to NOT switch off the exhaust flow and therefore NOT slow the turbine shaft, its a bit gash but does work well, and keeps a rally engine on boost........ and I suspect this will find its way into turbo LMP cars, on the basis that its very simple, minimal, light weight well proven........forget bang-bang-systems, it drinks fuel and smashes the exhaust to pieces, not to mention deafeningly loud!!! also I'm sure garret will push their VGT technology to many teams, I think both audi and pug were both running it last year |
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BTW the 2011 rules allow ceramic bearings, which is also new. Can the Garret VGT technology deal the higher exhaust temperature of a petrol engine? |
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Could this be where A-M via DPR have been claiming to have improved the ACO equivalency formula in favour of petrol engines?
More turbos, and to a better spec? Any reason they cannot run other ceramic components, i.e. housing and/or turbine on the exhaust side? After all, if I was clever, I'd design each to act as a bearing when assembled! It's a ceramic bearing... Honest. If this then links to a proveable road car technology improvement, I would say ACO have to go with it? |
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