Sportscar/GT (and Le Mans) Rumours and Repetition - Page 77

Articus · 18 Apr 2012, 21:20 (Ref:3061712)

I imagine Cadillac themselves. GM sells Cadillac's in Europe. they want people to buy a Caddie rather than a Merc or BMW or Audi so running under the Opel guise nowadays would be useless.

**joeb** · 19 Apr 2012, 00:57 (Ref:3061802)

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Originally Posted by Fogelhund

It is a completely fabricated opinion piece.

Exactly, I never stated different. The author purposely wrote the article in a manner that seemed like he was reporting a story instead of reporting his opinion.

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Originally Posted by Fogelhund

If Cadillac chooses to race elsewhere, it will be in North American DTM, against it's showroom competitors, Audi, Mercedes and BMW.

The competitors, or cars in the ALMS are not showroom competitors of Cadillac.

My thoughts as well. If people think the Corvette has a lot of waivers, I can't wait to see the list a CTS-V would have.

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Originally Posted by Fogelhund

We don't know the 2014 rules yet, but in what world does racing a small capacity engine make sense marketing a Corvette?

True, we don't know the 2014 regs, but they will be announced in June and I bet the manufacturers interested (not GM) in the 2014 P1 regs know what to be working on. After all, the manufacturers had a hand in the regs.

Fogelhund · 19 Apr 2012, 01:05 (Ref:3061806)

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Originally Posted by joeb

Exactly, I never stated different. The author purposely wrote the article in a manner that seemed like he was reporting a story instead of reporting his opinion.
.

No criticism of you, just the article.

TF110 · 19 Apr 2012, 04:59 (Ref:3061831)

A DTM car needs waivers? Woudn't that mean the whole car is a waiver? It'd be great to see that same silver livery on the World Challenge CTS-V's in a DTM package.

The Badger · 19 Apr 2012, 05:05 (Ref:3061838)

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Originally Posted by TF110

A DTM car needs waivers? Woudn't that mean the whole car is a waiver

Ya mean like the Ferrari 458 ?

Deleted · 19 Apr 2012, 05:23 (Ref:3061842)

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Originally Posted by The Badger

Ya mean like the Ferrari 458 ?

That may apply to last year, but it's perfectly legal now [that the width rule has been expanded]

**joeb** · 19 Apr 2012, 11:26 (Ref:3061970)

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Originally Posted by TF110

A DTM car needs waivers? Woudn't that mean the whole car is a waiver? It'd be great to see that same silver livery on the World Challenge CTS-V's in a DTM package.

sorry, i was thinking of a cts gte car, as mention in the article.

Acid09 · 19 Apr 2012, 11:41 (Ref:3061976)

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Originally Posted by TF110

Could that signal a return to DTM by their Opel brand?

No, Opel is completely broke and GM is planing to close at least one factory in Germany, there's absolutely no way they`ll get involved in any kind of high profile motor racing with plenty of layoffs around the corner.

CTD · 19 Apr 2012, 11:51 (Ref:3061979)

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Originally Posted by Acid09

No, Opel is completely broke and GM is planing to close at least one factory in Germany, there's absolutely no way they`ll get involved in any kind of high profile motor racing with plenty of layoffs around the corner.

Hell, GM has even thought on selling the whole Opel brand.

The massive DTM failure might exclude Opel from any kind of big budget motorsport for some time.

Acid09 · 19 Apr 2012, 15:34 (Ref:3062079)

Their past results aren't the problem, Opel has always been a fan favorite due to their "blue collar" image compared to the other makes in the DTM, their DTM efforts always gave them a good marketing return in terms of image.

The problem is that there's simply no money to blow for this kind of stuff, they wouldn't shy away from entering for the fear of being beat, they simply can't afford it.

KA · 19 Apr 2012, 17:09 (Ref:3062133)

Apparently, there's a report in this week's Autosport (print edition- can't see it on the website AFAIK) that Flybrid's hybrid system (as used in the Hope Oreca last year) will be seen in the WEC later this season- an existing LMP1 team may be using it after Le Mans- I don't think there's any hint which one though.

Victor_RO · 19 Apr 2012, 17:38 (Ref:3062153)

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Originally Posted by KA

Apparently, there's a report in this week's Autosport (print edition- can't see it on the website AFAIK) that Flybrid's hybrid system (as used in the Hope Oreca last year) will be seen in the WEC later this season- an existing LMP1 team may be using it after Le Mans- I don't think there's any hint which one though.

Pescarolo? Henri said at the start of the year that the AMR-One tub was designed with some form of possible hybrid installation in mind, so...

TF110 · 19 Apr 2012, 19:30 (Ref:3062220)

@Joeb- I maybe read it wrong or was speculating they'd join DTM. A GTE car wouldn't be too bad. How close are the World Challenge cars?

Simmi · 23 Apr 2012, 14:53 (Ref:3064321)

Bit of a new look for Strakka ahead of Spa.

The Badger · 23 Apr 2012, 15:26 (Ref:3064339)

Looks terrible ..... really highlights the fin . Wish they would revert back to their 2010 black colors .

**Aysedasi** · 23 Apr 2012, 20:30 (Ref:3064494)

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Originally Posted by Simmi

Bit of a new look for Strakka ahead of Spa.

The link is dead for me.....

TF110 · 23 Apr 2012, 22:27 (Ref:3064554)

here ya go-
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?id...9&pid=12115924

To me it looks like they're waving their flag behind the driver!

chernaudi · 24 Apr 2012, 22:48 (Ref:3065194)

I don't know how this bodes for the WEC, but Speed and the ACO have extended their deal with the LM24 for a few more years for North American fans.

Deleted · 25 Apr 2012, 05:35 (Ref:3065246)

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Originally Posted by chernaudi

I don't know how this bodes for the WEC, but Speed and the ACO have extended their deal with the LM24 for a few more years for North American fans.

It doesn't have any implication on WEC. Speed doesn't care about the championship, and frankly why should they...

Good to have LM deal extension as it stands as the only non Grand-Am/CTSCC sportscar event they still show! Also I usually catch the speed broadcast of the race after I've seen it on Eurosport

Mal · 25 Apr 2012, 11:33 (Ref:3065326)

That might change if the rumoured Corvette P1 comes to fruition - unless they run it in ALMS and LM24 only

Deleted · 25 Apr 2012, 11:54 (Ref:3065336)

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Originally Posted by Mal

That might change if the rumoured Corvette P1 comes to fruition - unless they run it in ALMS and LM24 only

It's only a rumour at this point and nothing less... and we all know GM hardly cares about racing outside their main market area. NASCAR, GA, SCCA, ALMS and now the Indycar deal suits them enough, for now... they have some privateer teams in Europe and Chevy gets (non-existent) attention with the RML Cruzes in WTCC.

And why should Speed bother with six hour races that get no ratings and that would need to be broadcasted at 6AM in States, unless they tape delay them and just show some Audi-filled highlights during the afternoon... okay F1 gets aired during the night and morning but *that's F1*. They should concentrate on getting ALMS back when the current TV deal comes to an end (if it comes)

The Badger · 25 Apr 2012, 12:08 (Ref:3065345)

I hope it Corvette decide to do P1 , they go WEC , as there isnt much competition there(ALMS) at present . Plus P&M will raise the game in P1 , as they do with respect to pit stops and tactics .

alexkiller8 · 25 Apr 2012, 12:18 (Ref:3065352)

i don't think that a corvette P1 will be built by P&M, the society builds GT racecars and military vehicles but has 0 experience in lmp (they built a proto MR-2 but isn't comparable to a lmp). If GM won't directly project, build and develope the car, maybe they will ask for help to some american chassis manufacter like riley or coyote, or maybe they will contact again lola remembering their collaboration during IMSA GT era.

MitchZ06 · 25 Apr 2012, 12:44 (Ref:3065363)

I pity the fool who thinks an engineering firm with the capabilities of P&M cannot build a LMP1 car. Pure foolishness.

gwyllion · 25 Apr 2012, 12:47 (Ref:3065366)

The same could be said about Prodrive, but the AMR-One prototype turned out to be a complete disaster

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