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11 Jun 2018, 18:42 (Ref:3828477) | #176 | |
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what is Dan Welch up to this days ?
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15 Jun 2018, 16:20 (Ref:3829697) | #180 | |
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Sounds like an admission that he just gave up in race 3. Not giving it his all like Sutton
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In fairness, what's the point of continuing to run? You're adding wear and tear, risk of accident damage and not likely to score a point. Top that with feeling unhappy and you may as well go and have a beer!
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15 Jun 2018, 20:59 (Ref:3829775) | #182 | |
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I wonder if there's any help for Subaru/BMR. I bet this is their last year in BTCC - or at least last as a factory outfit.
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This just seems like public bleating (something that JP is very good at) in the hope that TOCA will allow them more engine power (to make up for their lack of pace/budget/development).
Mind you, that would be if their lack of power was because it'd been turned down by TOCA in the first place, but I thought they'd said at Oulton that Swindon had turned the boost down to preserve the engine (crankshaft problems)? The engine they ran last year had sufficient power (which was allowed special modifications, agreed to by the other teams) to win the championship, they're certainly going backwards this season... |
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They weren't the first and probably won't be the last that were allowed to change things mid-season with other teams agreements. Unlike F1 the BTCC paddock is far more aware of the big picture I feel.
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Now they are in their 3rd season as a "manufacturer" team and a 2nd season with very poor financial backing. With the reigning champion in the team it is odd that they haven't been able to raise more sponsorship for this year, I wonder how much of this year's budget was used to settle last year's bills. |
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16 Jun 2018, 10:12 (Ref:3829875) | #188 | |
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You aren't comparing apples with apples. These days, BTCC is first and foremost entertainment not sport. It's all about the show, and if tweaking the regs or allowing mid-season changes helps to improve the show, then that's exactly what will happen.
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16 Jun 2018, 10:14 (Ref:3829877) | #189 | |
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toca are not that crazy enough to do that! because then every team will just ask for more boost when they havent done enough testing or development. its not up to toca to make a team competitive if they just havent done a good enough job.
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16 Jun 2018, 10:35 (Ref:3829882) | #190 | |
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But they aren't running at the power levels TOCA have already allowed them. The engines are unable to sustain the power without destroying the crankshaft/bearings, so they are forced to reduce the power. If it is true that Swindon were cheaper than Mountune, I wonder how if that will change by the seasons end and the final bill comes in.
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I feel the woes we are seeing are the result of trying to live a champagne and caviar operation on a prosecco and Quavers budget. No amount of boost fiddling is going to fix poor management/poor budgeting. The package is just a long way behind everybody else. They all took a step forwards this term while BMR treaded water at best. Unless a new source of funding comes forward, I don't think we'll have a fresh reason to discuss them much in future in any positive way sadly.
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16 Jun 2018, 14:23 (Ref:3830084) | #192 | ||
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More power is not what BMR need even if that was something TOCA waved a wand to give them.
The engines are fragile and BMR have turned down performance so they don't blow up. Why they are so fragile is the pertinent question: is it simply (and I don't know this - but would be my educated guess) a case that they are now very old, pretty knackered and Swindon can't do much with them? Yet Scott acquires a TCR car to play out in. Still hasn't filed his accounts but the strike off action has been stopped: so he has appeased Companies House. He also bleats on about European or World TCR: I think the man is not listening to his accountant or is banking on a lottery win... |
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The teams aren't so worried about the entertainment angle though that's more TOCA but they are still capable of seeing what is good for the series as a whole which is glaringly not the case in F1. Some F1 teams would seem to be happy with a six car championship that they could dominate regardless if anyone was watching. Don't get that impression, for whatever reason, with the BTCC.
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ask any scooby person about the flat 4 and you will always get the same answer, the bottom end is fragile, it has always been that way in its various incarnations due to the small diameter of the main and big end bearings. in road car form 250 brake is fine as long as your not red lining all the time. the rally boys can run 400 again they bang if you red line them.
now in a btcc race the engines are running 350-400 brake and the nature of the tracks they are getting pushed in all the gears, getting red lined constantly for the full race, the bearings cant take it, the cranks cant take it. Even in time attack and sprints they are only doing 2 or 3 laps flat out then allowed to cool. hardly surprising in btcc they are going bang. bmr could fit the standard toca unit but the weight distribution would be to pot |
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Given the weight added in the vicinity of the dash to remove the Subarus low centre of gravity removed the big advantage prior to the 2017 season, maybe a standard TOCA unit wouldn't upset things too dramatically? Of course this will remain speculation as Scott is unlikely to be opening his wallet... maybe next year run by another team? 😉
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It is very unlikely that a TOCA engine would find it's way into the car as Subaru (even though I suspect their financial input isn't that great) will want their own engine in the cars. |
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