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6 Dec 2008, 22:21 (Ref:2349217)
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7 Dec 2008, 13:27 (Ref:2349548)
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The MSA are very ignorant of a ,ot of motorsport
I follw short oval racing and that has thrived for along time completely independent of MSA fussing and law making. Dont worry about it, they only force things like homologation, safety and rubbish on you, then expect you to pay silly money for a licence when you only need a few corners to race on! I dont mind drifting, it gets a bit dull after a while, but combined with time attack and tuner stuff it makes an entertaining day. New, different and also could possibly bring ina whole new market of Asians and people such as that into motorsport who ahvent been interested at all until now. If promoted correctly of course! |
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9 Dec 2008, 22:37 (Ref:2351319)
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 The MSA would only boringalise it with stupid engine rules eg. BTCC engines - you can get 600 reliable bhp from a Supra engine for pennies but a 300 bhp BTCC engine is not very reliable and costs a bomb Drifting is the most exciting motorsport to see live in my opinion |
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17 Dec 2008, 16:16 (Ref:2357054)
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17 Dec 2008, 21:24 (Ref:2357252)
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The good thing I like about it is no pesky front wheel drives!
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20 Dec 2008, 22:31 (Ref:2359038)
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2 Jan 2009, 23:31 (Ref:2364293)
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drifting is not motor racing but it is a motorsport. simple as.
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3 Jan 2009, 09:13 (Ref:2364376)
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Yes I would agree with that surely the definition of motorsport is you prepare a car for a disipline and enter it thats it whether its trialing, drag racing, or any of the other none racing disiplines. Its certaionly no less a sport than that one where they negotiate a series of tight bends, back into and out of spaces etc which I cannot remember the name of, I think I would rather watch some powerful RWD cars and hear some V8's than watch converted Minis etc doing that!
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3 Jan 2009, 13:12 (Ref:2364480)
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the sport you describe Al, sounds like Autotesting. Which I would rather watch than Drifting, so each to their own!
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3 Jan 2009, 13:13 (Ref:2364482)
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Of course its a sport -Competing aganist other people=Sport
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8 Jan 2009, 19:33 (Ref:2367851)
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13 Jan 2009, 23:24 (Ref:2370995)
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In response to the comments comparing competition drift to figure skating etc, althought this may be true for the qualifying element of a competition once you reach the tandem (tsuiso) rounds things become a bit closer to a traditional form of motorsport (i.e car vs car). As long as you are still sideways, most emphasis is placed on out driving your competitor by being as close as possible to them (or even overtaking) or pulling away from them depending on your position. Clipping points etc are less important, other elements like smoke are really just by product of the speed and horsepower necessary to pull away or close up on an opponent. At least this is the way it was in the initial Japanese pro format, in the U.S they are starting to insist on certain lines even during tandem battles, and most western competitions have a large fixation on smoke production. Usually it is fairly obvious who has won and in only in close battles are elements like angle and smoke used to seperate competitors. The tsuiso judging format has its roots in illegal touge (mountain road) racing in Japan where it's too narrow to overtake, so competitors race line astern; if the front car pulls away they win and if the rear car stays in their tail it goes the other way.
In answer to the inital thread question, if it involves motors and there is a winner then it is motorsport. |
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14 Jan 2009, 15:22 (Ref:2371373)
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Motorsport or not 100+ pages, I have tried it & its fun + Cheap = Will do it again, thats why it is appealing to the younger generations. I have watched the odd vid of professional drifting since the D1 started & now have no interest in it as a sport, BHP vs BHP, the ametuer element is gone.
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18 Feb 2009, 13:32 (Ref:2399630)
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Definately a motorsport as it invoves modified cars and competition. A growing sport.
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27 Feb 2009, 09:17 (Ref:2405207)
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of course it is!!!!!!!!!! and a good one too!!
im an autotester so appreciate the skills and the size of your balls neeeded to drift well |
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27 Feb 2009, 19:48 (Ref:2405607)
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As a matter of interest whats the hot tyre set up for drifting? I was thinking prehaps a nice sticky tyre on the front with some worn out hard old things on the back, is that the way to go?
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27 Feb 2009, 19:59 (Ref:2405615)
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28 Feb 2009, 09:08 (Ref:2405942)
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I would'nt mind turning up with the IROC for one of these meetings for the craic, I have stacks of old tyres mounted on rims. Do you recon 470bhp rear wheel drive V8 will cut it :-)
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6 Jun 2009, 21:06 (Ref:2476664)
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At Lydden last time out there was the ability with each car to "lock" the offside rear wheel coming into Paddock, making the "drift" simple; After 3 laps.....yawn...zz
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6 Jun 2009, 21:07 (Ref:2476666)
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10 Oct 2009, 13:22 (Ref:2558175)
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I just have to stick my oar in
 Surely the understood definition of "motorsport" involves "powered vehicles in a competitive envoronment". As long as there is a winner at the end of the event then it is classified as a sport as it is a competition. (DARTS is a sport but you don't have to be in peak physical condtion to play!) With regard to drifting and the definition of "motorsport", then yes, it is indeed motorsport as it involves cars with engines in a competitive envronment. Is it motor-racing? No. Its not the quickest round the track that wins (although this is often the case) it is judged on other things then outright speed. In response to some of the rather childish comments about chavs, neons and other related matter, I have some good friends who drift, one who is going for his BDC licence this year. There are no neon tubes under his car, he does not have a humungous bank balance, he does not (yet) have a sponsor and has built his car himself in his garage around his family and work life and I have never once heard him say "innit?". He has been on track with some of the pro drifters and has come very close to their standard on occasion - enough to get commented on by them that he could be one to watch. He's also the most down-to-earth guy you could hope to meet and often takes passengers out on track (both me and my other half have been out. In conclusion, (before I turn this into even more of an essay that it already it!) Drifting is a motorsport but it is not motor racing and thus I think it should be included on here. Anyway, most of the drifters and people interested in it are already on driftworks forum! |
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10 Oct 2009, 13:38 (Ref:2558181)
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I don't see how anyone can argue that it is not motorsport although I dare say as this thread develops I might find out! Having said that it (along with drag racing and NASCAR) leaves me cold and excites no interest whatsoever but then my interests in motorsport revolve mainly around F1 and hillclimb which are not everyone's cup of tea either.
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10 Oct 2009, 14:51 (Ref:2558204)
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Whats the best set up, stick on a set of tyres that dont grip too well or what?
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10 Oct 2009, 15:27 (Ref:2558220)
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Im a drifting fan and i massive motorsport fan.
For me drifting is NOT motor racing But it IS motorsport. I dont see how people can say its not! |
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11 Oct 2009, 20:25 (Ref:2559176)
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Having been to two or three drifting 'events' i can say that it does seem attract a different crowd. It is a matter of personal opinion, drifting and 'proper' motor-racing are completely different. IMO it is motorsport, but not motor-racing.
do i like it?.... It offers something different to your usual circuit racing . It does involve skill, balancing throttle etc etc etc....but i for one...am more of a RACING fan |
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