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STR with a Renault PU has been a solid midfield team. Next year McLaren is likely to jump into the top 10, and Renault (the team) will no doubt continue their progress. So the top 10 could be filled with Merc, Ferrari, RB, McLaren and Renault. Not much room for smaller privateers to score points. On top of that, STR's direct competitors will all be powered by 2018 Mercedes or Ferrari PUs. Honda need to make big improvements to get close enough. Add a bit underwhelming driver lineup to the mix, and it could be their worst season for years.
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I think they did well. Kyvat had blown his chance, while Gasly deserves a chance and Hartley will hopefully be a good benchmark for him
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There did seem some reluctance to put Gasly in (he'd been tested before - if he was "the next Max" then he'd have started the season in the car rather than Kvyat). Hartley was brought back from the dead - they'd looked at him in the past and decided he wasn't up to it. Presumably once they'd dropped Gasly into one seat they then didn't have anyone on the conveyor belt with the credentials to put in the other seat. So out comes the list of 'rejects' and hey presto Hartley is in the car (presumably Buemi was another option). I'm not saying Hartley is a bad driver - he just looks to be a stop gap solution. |
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9 Jan 2018, 16:06 (Ref:3791562) | #184 | |
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I think Gasly’s problem was the same with most young drivers, not enough seats in F1
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If there was 30 odd seats available he would have come straight in at the start of the season somewhere. Young drivers hardly get the chance unless the big teams/schemes put them in somewhere these days. 25 years ago there were more seats available for a driver to come in and get noticed. You can't do that without serious sponsorship. People have been going on about Bob the Pole not getting a Williams with 9-10 million compared to Sirotkin's alleged 18 mill. Hang on but this ain't new. Remember when Kobayashi dropped out of F1 4 years ago because his rumoured 11 mill wasn't enough to buy a drive?!! |
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9 Jan 2018, 17:25 (Ref:3791582) | #186 | ||
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i have no idea, always struggle to find a source that post laptimes but also the name of the current driver, usually they just go by the team. how were their laptimes then?
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Gasly is good but not game-changing. Hartley, given a second chance (rare in F1), might surprise.
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One of the reasons I don't follow WEC. This weekend at Daytona Lance Stroll Daniel Juncadella Robin Frijns Felix Rosenqvist are all in one car. WE have never had a better chance to compare them. WEC needs to take an average of the qualifying times of all the drivers in a car to get a grid slot. |
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http://www.imsatiming.com/results/20...a%2024%20Hour/ I think it has lap and sector timing data for each car including who is in the car. Match that to weather data, etc and you can do some good data analysis. I will say I found this article (a bit off topic regarding TR/Honda) which to me negatively impacts my opinion of Stroll. https://www.motorsport.com/imsa/news...norris-973722/ Basically it sound like he treated his Daytona 24 ride as a fun day with the boys. Even if so, it seems a disservice to the team and his codrivers. If you participate... you race to win. I wonder if the data analysis shows him not as quick as his codrivers? To be honest, given Hartleys proto experience, he should be faster than Stroll. However... the Daytona cars are somewhat dinosaurs compared to what Hartley would be used to. So it might be a wash. Richard |
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10 Jan 2018, 07:18 (Ref:3791668) | #191 | |
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Looking at the above
Quali was Wurz with 2:08.639 (Wet?) 13 fastest laps Hartley with fastest on lap 716 at 1:40.1 14 th fastest lap Stroll on lap 670 at 1:40.6 17 th fastest lap Stroll on lap 665 at 1:40.6 (don't know how they were split) 71 st fastest lap Priaux on lap 539 at 1:41.1 84 th fastest lap Wurz on lap 574 at 1:41.2 In summary it looks like they were all driving to a delta of about 1:41 with traffic hampering from time to time. Last two stints where Hartley and Stroll seem to have been given a lower delta. Timing does not seem to provide much info, on balance Hartley generally ran the fastest laps and Stroll was clearly not embarrassed in this company. |
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Back to Toro Rosso HONDA, I've been pondering about the engine situation. Honda have already said that they may start the season with (what is basically) last years engine (OK, Power Unit) meaning that it must be fairly interchangeable with the 'newer' one.
I'm just wondering if, for comparison purposes they will rune one (reliable) specification in one car, and the supposedly more powerful (but less reliable) in the other car? That way, Toro Rosso can gain some chassis mileage whilst Honda can expose the latest engine to the stresses of racing? |
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Well the Honda engine was admittedly was getting more reliable towards the end of last season, so maybe they are using it while they make sure the new one is reliable enough
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Well Brendon Hartley will now be a tenth slower than he used to be. Next step is a kid, and then he'll be two tenths slower.
Hamilton, Alonso, Verstappen and Ricciardo still off that list - thankfully. |
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Not a good start to the 2018 campaign for STR/Honda. They have fired their head of aero, at a very critical time. Have to wonder if it had anything to do with the Honda engine fitment to the chassis/aero package.
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Well the question is who have they got to take his place?
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