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Well im back, what great weekend. amazing venue.
lots of little things to fix for the crowd to enjoy more (more food, more drink) some things were simple like moving a big screen a few meters back. Newcastle crowd were so polite, always clapping, picked up there rubbish and put it at the full bins that last race was amazing to watch. Scott made some great passes and a couple of not so great ones. but really he blew it, all the penalties were there (just maybe not so severe) Think we need to look at the pit lane speeding one, a drive through seems severe, compared to other penalties we have, We used to give drive through for a jump start, but we modified that, need to consider something similar (10 second hold at pit stop) And SVG was wrong, you can pass, But then his word isn't really worth much |
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That is put pressure on scott to make an error. You may not like it, but he did what was required. pity Scott didnt have his team mate there doing the same P.S I am a Ford fan, but give credit where its due, I am a fan of Larry Perkins, Russell Ingal, Jason richards, Jim Richards, and a lot more who drove all types makes Last edited by fomoco; 27 Nov 2017 at 08:26. Reason: Add |
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Pye did what I would have done, not get involved and just let him through. I think that was really admirable, putting someone else above your own finish. Moffat, Simona, Courtney, Lowndes... not so much. Moffat/SM supposed to be good mates? Sh-t they can't be that good, if my good mate came up behind me I'd be letting him through then blocking Lowndes as much as I can to help him. Instead Moffat tried his hardest and SM had to literally smash into the side of him to get past. Simona... sure he was a long way back, but so was JW (was it JW or SVG?) and she let him through. Why not turn in on them as well? Courtney also made it far more difficult than needed. But that's just me, maybe I'm just too nice aye? |
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The problem with both those incidents (SVG's penalty in race 1 and SM on Simona) especially in SVG's case, is that neither of them were out of control and hit the other car. It was a case of Reynolds and Simona deciding they're not close enough so just turning in.
Reynolds especially was bad because SVG WAS far enough up the inside when they entered the corner. But SVG had to take slightly less speed in so he didn't just plow into Reynolds - he knew he couldn't use the full track. Reynolds meanwhile went in full tit using the entire racing line so by the time they got the apex of course he was further ahead, but not far enough thus contact, thus giving SVG a penalty because the stewards only look at how far up SVG was at the point of contact. But Reynolds should have known better, of all people his arch nemesis is diving up the inside and he just flies into the corner expecting him not to be there anymore? If SVG went into the corner the same speed as Reynolds, he would have been far enough up the inside but of course probably would have just slid into Reynolds. Once he saw SVG was up there, it was up to Reynolds to either turn in and pray SVG somehow backed out of it or went overtop the kerbs, or just leave a tiny amount of room. He misjudged it, but the "is he far enough up" rule gives SVG the automatic penalty. It's a tough one and not so clear cut imo. If SVG was out of control (JW on SM at Bathurst) it would be different. Similar to Simona, in hindsight I bet she wishes she stayed high and gave him a bit of space and there would never have been contact. She could have then continued towards probably her best result. Sure SM came from far too far back, but he WAS going to get it stopped. I think it was right to give a penalty maybe 5 or 10sec though because it could have been avoided by both parties. |
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It is not SdS’s job or Mr Reynolds’ job to move out of the way just because someone is in contention for a championship
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27 Nov 2017, 23:04 (Ref:3783615) | #190 | |
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What I can't square is Craig then just letting Scott go at Turn 2 back at about Lap 20 in Race 2. That is an issue in light of what happened later. There needs to be a clear, consistent, understandable standard of driver conduct. Black-and-white rules and sliding scales of peoples' whims don't mesh.
In light of earlier events, I'd probably have adjudged the ending there with Craig as a racing incident. If you're going to use the standard that the T8 man has to do what is 'necessary' as justification, well then, Scott did exactly the same thing. Penalize both, or penalize neither one. And I'd definitely call it a racing incident if Craig never received any real sort of cautionary note from anyone after the earlier contact he made with Scott's tail. And keep in mind, Craig spent at least five seasons as easily my favorite driver in the series, so don't get started on that tack. |
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It's entirely possible that T8 threw a new set of Dunlops at Craig's car purely to get him in a position to either be in front of (or directly behind) Scotty????
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But if i could afford a grand stand spot i would, they were the better spots and reserved a seat as well as big screens. However i found a satisfactory GA spot in the hairpin, but if it was 30c plus the shade of the grandstand might be handy. so to answer your question, it would depend who i was with and if i wanted to spend the money. (but if i could afford it i would get a corporate ticket instead) History shows , crowd often drops of bit in 2nd year as well, but they also improve things |
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From the telecast, it seemed to me the big screens were really in place for the seated, and screens for GA were a little light on. Maybe thats one thing they could improve for 2018. For a track I have not been to before I would probably play it safe and make sure there's a seat (and screen) for me (and likely wife + child) but yes, it adds up fast. Hairpin area looked like a great spot if the weather was kind. Cheers for the feedback, it really did look great on the teev, and we spent all Saturday at home talking about a visit. |
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The same can also be said that it's also not their job to get in a wreck when you're on for your best performance of the season (Simona that is).
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Definitely the screens were best placed for grandstands and corporates and GA were just lucking to be able to piggyback of them. there were a number of screens in places where you couldnt see the track (ie at the concert oval and also at a food area. But if you could afford it, i would recommend grandstands. On the sunday we got there much earlier (by 9) and all the good viewing spots were taken by then |
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