Lydden ERC

[MESHGA]

Originally Posted by rs 200

well was a good weekend until i saw and heard doran jr shouting at a driver or 2 ,when will he grow up and keep it shut people dont want to see this or hear it,not sure what team hanson would have to say but from where i was did not look good ,and i did see something else around this time which i did not want to see ,has put a black mark on a few people now ,my opion has changed after 20 years of watching him ,

Have to say ,Have you any proof on what your saying?
Did any one else see anything?

[ebby]

Excellent days racing, thought Procter and Duval drove very well, Kuypers and Hunsbedt were rather aggressive and I think if Liam's car hadn't been damaged he could have challenged for a win. Tanner Foust drove well also but what happened to Eriksson? Julian Godfrey went well on the tarmac but didnt have the umphh coming out of Chessons which cost him several places, those Russians were quick. Well done to Derek Tohill went very well today.

For a days rallycross it was a bit slow going in terms of the delays between races, especially the finals - interviews on the track in between finals, the red bus that kept coming on the track etc

Real shame Arthur Debenham wasn't commentating - didn't catch why as we stood back at the exit to the chicane which until recently was roped off - thanks for reinstating this spectating area - however please fix the commentary as you can't hear anything there!

From what I heard though - good job you couldn't hear the commentary actually - the guy doing it was awful, he's been to Lydden to do rallycross several times now but still doesn't know anything about it, resorting to reading texts out that people had sent in and getting mexican waves going - basically because the bloke is clueless.

[chunder]

Lo, agreed about eh commentator

Came up with "double European Rallycross champion Will Gollop" once

I nearly ran up there and stuck the mic up his bum!!

[fatboyrst]

who was doran jr shouting at?

[Thundersports]

Thanks ebby it looked like I missed a good meeting.

[Nordic]

This was the first rallyx meeting for me for since 1989! firstly the cars where every thing I recall, fast and exciting, but maybe a bit fragile?

Who in gods name was the commentator? part of the role is to know alittle bit about the cars and drivers. seemed well out his depth and resorted to 'comic banter' that was so sad. keeping the punters informed about the races is also part of the role. maybe he didnt know a car had been thrown out after the Doran crash, but the 20 mins to decide that smeed to drag, I only heard it second hand so it may not even be true, but that kind of my point.

I think Lydden may have had security problems in the past, that can be the only reason for the para military security strolling around. not very welcoming I thought.

And finally what was it with the bus? jeez I felt my hair grow while the presentations droned on.

Apart from that, hopefully it wont be 20 odd years till I go again!

[tbtstt]

I was only there for the Monday, but I had a throughly enjoyable day out, I was pleasantly surprised to see some old spectator areas brought back into commission as well.

A well deserved win from Isachsen, though I do wonder if Liam could have given him more a run if his car hadn't been damaged. Full credit to the mechanics for getting it back on the grid though. Shame not to see Foust run in the final, I was looking forward to seeing how he'd fare against the top drivers - plus I thought his car was one of the best sounding of the weekend! What happened to Eriksson?

I thought the racing seemed very stop/start during the day? Didn't bother me that much, but it just seemed uncharacteristic of rallycross events at Lydden.

My only real criticism was the commentary was incredibly patchy. As has already been pointed out the commentator didn't seem to know what he was talking about, nor did he communicate what was happening with the delays etc. very well.

PS. Nice pictures Dave Smeets!

[MESHGA]

Same commentator from Knockhill maybe?

[D Smeets]

Originally Posted by tbtstt

PS. Nice pictures Dave Smeets!

Thanks.

Pics from yesterday also online on my website: www.davesmeets.n

[daz2202]

Driver of the weekend for me has to be Derek Tohill. Car was immaculate, excellent drive and a superb overtake in the final at the top of the hill.

[1975DCS]

Originally Posted by schanche

So Duvall is back on the list and reports elsewhere that he is going there to win! Could be interesting cant see that happening I think he will be lucky to make the B final with no previous testing of the circuit,I guess he will be busy on the press day along with Tanner

Well, they both made into the A-finals, good results I guess!

[1975DCS]

Originally Posted by chunder

And also Godfrey pulling about 10,000 rpm!! hell that thing screams!

That didn't help him win the start...

Originally Posted by chunder

Div1A again looked like Mini's round the Nordschliefe here, was hilarious listnening to them changing up0 4 times down the hill and only going about 15 mph faster!! Like kids on mopeds!! But good racing and nice mix of cars

Yeah those close ratios gearboxes are not always a good thing. The usable engine band is probably so narrow they need it going up the hill at all...

Originally Posted by chunder

Facilities great but people please, ONLY use the pits cafe, don't go to the ones out on track, they are more expensive, smaller cups/burgers etc, and the coffee I had there tasted like soil!! Awful.

Great tip! Thanks! Luckily I had this VIP pass, so I didn't have to buy anything on Monday...

[1975DCS]

Well with the 2nd heat I thought OMG, why doesn't Kuypers put a little bit more aggression into it, when Eriksson made his pass. But that did change in heat 3 and the finals! Thankfully...

Procter did very well, the car looks the bizz and I think that with a little bit of luck we will see more A-finals. The VA-enginered car is still one of the better cars out there, I doubt if Kuypers new one enginered by Ingvar is that much better. Is Procter still running it with Callaghan spec engine?

The Astra of Bardy/Evans is still the 1st Astra, it is converted to cooling in the boot, like the 2nd one. But the 2nd one is gone, it is used as donor for the 1st...

Isachsen looked a bit boring, not as wild as a couple of years ago... I think Doran Jr., Walfridsson, Foust and Duval were more entertaining.

Hansen did what he is allways doing: just keeping up with others in the heats to beat them in the finals...

Jernberg, was the big dissapointment... So we will see him in 2011 I guess...

[chasing cars]

A fantastic weekend,well done to Amy & her team for putting on a wonderful event, and surely Lydden will get a round again next year. Also thanks to all the drivers for putting on such a great show the racing seemed alot better this year though it was a shame some did have mechanical issues.

As others have said the commentator was somewhere below dreadful. Apart from the pathetic text messaging & mexican wave (just needed a hi de hi to complete things) he gave little information on drivers, no run down of the order at the end of each timed runs and no grids for the finals, in fact despite knowing little french I had more idea what was going on at Kerlabo,though in fairness I dont know how much notice he had that he was going to be doing the whole event (get well soon Arthur, we very much miss you).

I did see Liam being held held back by a couple of marshalls while the re-run of his heat was being sorted, but in fairness he did then appear to walk away.

Again thanks and well done to everyone who gave us such a good weekend.

[AndyS]

Originally Posted by chasing cars

A fantastic weekend,well done to Amy & her team for putting on a wonderful event, and surely Lydden will get a round again next year. Also thanks to all the drivers for putting on such a great show the racing seemed alot better this year though it was a shame some did have mechanical issues.

As others have said the commentator was somewhere below dreadful. Apart from the pathetic text messaging & mexican wave (just needed a hi de hi to complete things) he gave little information on drivers, no run down of the order at the end of each timed runs and no grids for the finals, in fact despite knowing little french I had more idea what was going on at Kerlabo,though in fairness I dont know how much notice he had that he was going to be doing the whole event (get well soon Arthur, we very much miss you).

I did see Liam being held held back by a couple of marshalls while the re-run of his heat was being sorted, but in fairness he did then appear to walk away.

Sounds like a great event, can't wait to check out the coverage. Commentating seems to be a bit of an issue with a lot rallycross events/coverage this year and by the sounds of it somebody really needs to have a word with Doran Jnr.

[Hickey]

Thought it was a cracking event. Some really close racing and great overtaking moves (plus fantastic defensive driving twice by Julian, like the Gollop/Schanche days). And the finals were really decent too.

Thought it was a bit unfair for Hunsbedt to get DQ'd for his actions, then not DQ Kuypers, consistency needs to be looked at.

Completely agree that the gap between the Division 2 A final and the Div 1a A final was embarrassingly long. If there was an incident in the Div 1 final and it couldnt be rerun due to time constraints, then it would have been awful. Still, that didnt happen, so no harm no foul.

It did look like Liam was kicking off. Very embarrassing and hope that King Kenny gives him a hiding. Also, Pat seemed to be having a word with Lysen after the second heat; not really sure why, as dont think Lysen did anything wrong.

And yes, that commentator was toilet! Not just lack of rallycross knowledge but his lack of intelligence! At one point, he read out a text message from "Isaac Hunt", without realising it was rude. What a tool!

But overall, fantastic three days, enjoyed all of it, and THANK YOU LHMC FOR RE-INSTATING THE BEST PLACE TO WATCH RALLYCROSS FROM EVER.

(on a side note, why did so many cars hit that kerb knowing that it led to punctures?! Avoid the flipping thing!)

[rich_cooper]

not the first time then that liam has had to be held back from someone. Last time he was up in proctors face for something that had nothing to do with him!

[bigdick1977]

Did anyone else see Andy Scott measuring the 207 and his new transporter in the paddock after the finals?
When I asked if it wold fit he grinned and said 'I hope so'!
The car was sat in Andys awning at this point (as Pailler was packing everything else away).

[StockHatch782]

Best weekend of the year so far for me! Phenomenal event, a really good bunch of people, some top banter and superb racing. And the weather wasn't half bad either.

Felt genuinely sad as I pulled out onto the A2 – can we have one every weekend please?

[Hickey]

Oops, i meant to say HUGE congratulations to Derek Tohill! Fantastic display in the final, especially as Borseth looked to have the edge all weekend - and to re-take the lead was fantastic. We'll be there in Hungary to cheer you on!! (speaking of which, anyone on here going to that?!)

[Hickey1]

I concur Dave, the best weekend of the year. Hungary is going to have to be pretty special this weekend to better it.

Thought Kev was unlucky to come up against a rather quick Duval in the B Final. Would have been great to see two Brits in the A final.

Tohill drove brilliantly, especially to re-take the lead on the last corner. A great, clean, move.

Bring on next year!

[rs 200]

Originally Posted by MESHGA

Have to say ,Have you any proof on what your saying?
Did any one else see anything?

what are you jr pr or have you got more to say .

i think there is enough people on here what did see this ,he was having a go at what looked liked jos kuypers ,for having a racing come together and looking at jos front bumper i would say very little contact or none to pats fiesta ,so will he keep out of other peoples track issues or behave most people would jump at a chance to drive for khm ,but i guess he has had it to easy ,i hope khm give him a good chat ,i dont think i have ever seen kenny upset ,i think it must take a lot to push him over the edge so things like this must get under kennys skin,

[schanche]

Comentating issue?
Can I just say that it wasn't great but when you get told on the Saturday late that Arthur D will not be attending because of Ill health then I think all things considered it wasn't that bad.
Mr P is normally Arthurs side kick at the British events at lydden so to be thrust into the biggest event of the British Calender and be told your the voice of the weekend Fair play I say

Ok it was bad what was the alternative Music all day..

Get well soon Arthur.....

[1975DCS]

Originally Posted by rs 200

what are you jr pr or have you got more to say .

i think there is enough people on here what did see this ,he was having a go at what looked liked jos kuypers ,for having a racing come together and looking at jos front bumper i would say very little contact or none to pats fiesta ,so will he keep out of other peoples track issues or behave most people would jump at a chance to drive for khm ,but i guess he has had it to easy ,i hope khm give him a good chat ,i dont think i have ever seen kenny upset ,i think it must take a lot to push him over the edge so things like this must get under kennys skin,

I didn't see Liam, but I did saw Pat was not amused. Kuypers is not the most aggressive driver out there, so I thought Pat's reaction was a bit to much.

As for Liam, I didn't see it, but being an unofficial driver for Citroen he really needs to think twice. I am sure Citroen want him to be representive, including being able to give good press presentations...

[1975DCS]

Despite the bad commentating and lack of info being given in particular European info for non English supporters, anyone noticed the brakes on Munnich's Fabia when braking downhill? Nicely red, good to get on photo!