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And at the previous round in Hungary, Hamilton let Bottas pass him before the line, because Bottas was a realistic chance of taking the title away from Vettel or Hamilton yeah??
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Bottas IMHO needs to have a great start to the season if he is not to be a number 2 driver in the team
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Outqualified 5 - 11 Pole positions 2 - 10 No chance you are going to be number 1 with those stats, plus Hamilton went on holiday 2 races early. |
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Sorry, but what evidence do you have to back that statement?
I don't believe for a second that Bottas was signed on as a number 2 driver. That is a Ferrari trait. Not Mercedes. It was stated by Wolff at the time of signing that Bottas would be equal, and Hamilton demanded his team mate was given equal opportunity at the team. https://www.thenational.ae/sport/tot...des-gp-1.15677 https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/h...ammate-856210/ |
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for sure equal treatment in terms of car/parts and for sure that equality extended towards race strategies (until LH became the clear title challenger at least) but the massive difference in wages indicates, imo, a clear distinction in who is their 1 and 2 drivers.
Nico i believe had a clause saying he would make as much as Schumi and i want to say Nico was also pretty close to LH in terms of base retainer so *not much of a salary difference. Last edited by chillibowl; 8 Jan 2018 at 23:03. Reason: *forgot some words lol |
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As the 2014 season progressed, Hamilton proved to be the better driver. And won the championship that year. And by doing so, rightly deserved a higher wage for 2015. Nico's retainer was also higher for 2015, and higher again for 2016, but still not as near as Lewis' was. But both always had equal status at Mercedes throughout their time together. Then Nico won the championship in 2016. On a lower wage than Lewis. And then decided to Nicoff! |
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9 Jan 2018, 14:41 (Ref:3791549) | #183 | |
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Bottas became the natural number 2 as the season went on. He looked not far off in the first half, but sort of lost a bit in the second half. He's needs a consistent season this time from the off
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Wolff has said time and time again how much 'easier' or 'happier' it has been in the team with Lewis and Bottas. Of course it has, Lewis has had it all to himself for the most part. I like Bottas, he is definitely a quality driver but he will not get the opportunity to go for a title whilst Lewis is there, whether he is up to it or not. |
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The bottom line is that Bottas is a good driver whom very few would begrudge a title if it came his way, but Lewis is one of the greats who might end up at the top of the statistical heap.
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I see Valterri to Hamilton like Patrese to Mansell, good enough to get the better of him on occasion and play a good supporting role, but unlikely to win the title in the same team
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And is that why the 'supporting' driver finished AHEAD of the 'supported' driver five times before the Mexican GP, at where the title was finally decided? Great supporting driver that. |
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On the occasions where Bottas finished ahead of Hamilton, how many times was he in a position to aid his teammate? The support Bottas gave was to both Hamilton's WDC and the WCC. They achieved both, so yes - a great supporting role played. |
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Not only is LH concerned about Vettel and his lead in the championship, he must be concerned about VB and his last couple of (out)performances during race weekend. Hamilton appears to be visibly unsettled.
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Not just that, the last few races of 2017 saw Bottas regularly outqualifying Hamilton.
There are similarities to when Lewis won the title in 2015, checked out allowing Nico momentum into 2016. The only difference here is that Bottas is marginally off Nico's quality, and the fact that Mercedes are not as dominant anymore. |
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Bottas has done well since Australia. He really has pulled his finger out
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I'm generally not a Lewis fan, but I've no doubt he'll come back and beat Bottas. Lewis has that 'another level' he can turn it up to when needed.
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Did Mr Hamilton really get head messed after the show of strategy fail in Australia? Does he need Ms Scherzinger around again? |
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He's had some off times. I've no doubt at all he'll beat Bottas over a season. And I believe the Ferrari challenge will fall apart as the season goes on (similar to last season). I'm not a Lewis fan, but I'm not seeing an issue just yet. Long season and they've come back before.
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Last year we saw Hamilton start in the pit lane in Brazil and finish third 20 seconds off the winner Vettel. I think only the Mercedes mapping has changed for the first few races and service will be resumed. |
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I’m more optimistic about the fact that Merc era is over and we’re starting to have more teams challenging at the top now
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