BTCC BTCC 2020 season discussion, News and Rumours! - Page 82

BobJones · 19 Dec 2019, 19:30 (Ref:3947612)

Well done to WSR and Jordan for relieving BMW of additional funds. Two fully paid-up manufacturer-backed drivers is nothing to be sniffed at.

peebee2 · 19 Dec 2019, 20:27 (Ref:3947619)

Quote:

Originally Posted by BobJones

Well done to WSR and Jordan for relieving BMW of additional funds. Two fully paid-up manufacturer-backed drivers is nothing to be sniffed at.

Come on, you’re doing us no favours by believing press releases.

You’re just encouraging them into writing ever bigger exaggerations and lies...

**touringlegend** · 19 Dec 2019, 20:28 (Ref:3947620)

Aren’t they actually still bringing some
Amount of funding?

Jiiiiiiim · 19 Dec 2019, 21:33 (Ref:3947629)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alfisti

Overboost is right way more often than not.

We won’t have to wait long to see either.

Overboost · 19 Dec 2019, 21:42 (Ref:3947630)

Quote:

Originally Posted by bella

is this an official "marking of words" or is that a level of commitment that you're both not willing to make

You can 'mark my words' but I have been wrong before

**bella** · 19 Dec 2019, 22:15 (Ref:3947635)

quick, someone add it to The Lists

in all seriousness, anyone but chilton. nothing against the lad, but with my fangirl hat firmly on i'd far rather see a squad of quality drivers who haven't had their way eased through the sport by daddy. i hope bert's going to rinse him.

Alfisti · 19 Dec 2019, 22:38 (Ref:3947637)

Quote:

Originally Posted by bella

quick, someone add it to The Lists

in all seriousness, anyone but chilton. nothing against the lad, but with my fangirl hat firmly on i'd far rather see a squad of quality drivers who haven't had their way eased through the sport by daddy. i hope bert's going to rinse him.

Tom's a really nice lad. Catch him when it's quiet between races for a natter, down to earth, friendly, humble. Yes, the family has money but I don't hold that against him (or his brother).

Rob Collard makes better tea though

crmalcolm · 20 Dec 2019, 08:30 (Ref:3947672)

Friday update to the table.
Trade Price have confirmed that they will have a different driver lineup in 2020.
Hill is a possible for Cobra, having been confirmed as not at TPC, but announced his plans will be revealed soon.
Motorbase and BTC, both with 3 entries, are still to go public with any of their drivers.

Team	Car	Driver	Notes

Confirmed Entries
Excelr8	Hyundai i30	Smith ?	Confirmed in press release - want to retain driver lineup
Excelr8	Hyundai i30	Osborne ?	Confirmed in press release - want to retain driver lineup
Team Dynamics	Honda Civic	Cammish	2yr contract confirmed in press release
Team Dynamics	Honda Civic	Neal	Confirmed as driver pairing in press release
WSR	BMW 330i	Oliphant	On BTCC.net (and others)
WSR	BMW 330i	Turkington	On BTCC.net (and others)
WSR	BMW 330i	Jordan	On BTCC.net (and others)
Power Maxed	Vauxhall ?	Plato	Talked about engine/chassis developments for 2020 in interview
Power Maxed	Vauxhall ?	???	On TBL Entry List
Speedworks	Toyota Corolla	Ingram	Confirmed Ginsters backing for 2020 in article
Laser Tools (Aiden Moffat Racing)	Infiniti Q50	Moffat	Confirmed in press release
Laser Tools (Team BMR)	Infiniti Q50	Sutton	Confirmed in press release
Ciceley Motorsport	MB A-Class ?	Rowbottom	Confirmed entry in Facebook post
Ciceley Motorsport	MB A-Class ?	Morgan	Brands Hatch summary confirms 2020 return
HARD	VW CC	Goff	On BTCC.net (and others)
HARD	VW CC	Bushell	On BTCC.net (and others)
HARD	VW CC	???	On TBL Entry List
HARD	BMW 125i	Boardley	On BTCC.net (and others)
AmD (Cobra)	Honda Civic	Not 2019 driver(s)	Confirmed in social media post
AmD (Cobra)	Honda Civic	Not 2019 driver(s)	Confirmed in social media post
AmD (Trade Price)	Audi S3	Not 2019 driver(s)	On TBL Entry List (2yr contract for cars)
AmD (Trade Price)	Audi S3	Not 2019 driver(s)	On TBL Entry List (2yr contract for cars)
BTC Racing	Honda Civic?	Smiley?	Social media post said returning, with picture of cars and drivers
BTC Racing	Honda Civic?	Cook?	Social media post said returning, with picture of cars and drivers
BTC Racing	Honda Civic?	???	On TBL Entry List
Motorbase	Ford Focus?	???	On TBL Entry List
Motorbase	Ford Focus?	???	On TBL Entry List
Motorbase	Ford Focus?	???	On TBL Entry List
Simpson Racing	Honda Civic?	Simpson?	On TBL Entry List - Rumoured to have vocalised a withdrawal
Team Parker	BMW ?	???	On TBL Entry List

Likely Entries
HARD	VW CC	Crees?	tags HARD on social media

Possible Entries
???	Jag ?	Crees	Rumoured by Crees in a Facebook interview
Not Motorbase	???	Chilton	Has been critical of the Focus in the press
???	???	Edwards	Has stated that she no longer drives in Clio Cup. Website is worded to suggest she is on the grid for 2020
HARD	VW CC	Thompson?	Claims to have exciting 2020 news on social media soon
HARD	VW CC	Coates?	Gilham #tagging?
Motorbase	Ford Focus?	Butcher	Numerous links suggested
AmD (Cobra)	Honda Civic	Hill?	Not at TPC, confirmed his 2020 plans will be revealed soon
???	???	Proctor	Says he is working to be on BTCC grid

Entries with doubt
???	???	Shedden	Speculation about wanting a return
???	???	M.Jackson	Linked to half of the teams on the grid
???	???	Blundell	Stated that he is undecided about a 2020 return
???	Subaru Levorg	???	Car not viable as NGTC entry
???	Subaru Levorg	???	Car not viable as NGTC entry
???	MB A-Class	???	Car on sale from Laser Tools
???	MG6	???	Excelr8 switched to Hyundai
???	MG6	???	Excelr8 switched to Hyundai

crmalcolm · 20 Dec 2019, 08:32 (Ref:3947673)

And in the summary of information provided without source, sceptic's post relating to Hill being back with TPC is now known to be false.

Team	Car	Driver	Notes

Words Marked
???	???	Chilton	touring fan01, Alfisti
???	???	Files	TR4racer
Simpson TBL	Honda Civic	Not Simpson	Pickles
BTC	Honda Civic	Chilton	billy bleach
BTC	???	Chilton	Overboost
BTC	???	Cook	Overboost
PMR	???	Smiley	Pickles
Motorbase	???	Butcher	Pickles
HARD	???	Crees	sceptic
???	???	Shedden	Pickles
Vodafone (Motorbase)	Ford Focus ST	Butcher	crmalcolm
Excelr8	???	Osborne	sceptic
Excelr8	???	Smith	sceptic
???	???	O.Jackson	sceptic

True Words Spoken
???	???	Sutton	touring fan01
AmD	Honda Civic x2	New Drivers	Overboost
Motorbase	3rd Car	???	Jiiiiiiim
HARD	BMW 1-Series	Boardley	Kinger6
Speedworks/Dynamics/WSR/Laser Tools/HARD/Amd Cobra/BTC/Motorbase	Change of 1 Car	???	Pickles
HARD	???	Boardley	sceptic
Trade Price	Audi S3 x2	???	Overboost
Trade Price?	Audi S3 x2	???	RS67
WSR	???	Jordan	touring fan01

False Words Spoken
PMR	3rd Car	???	Pickles
???	Honda Civic	Boardley	Pickles
Not HARD	Not Honda Civic	Boardley	Pickles
HARD	VW CC	???	crmalcolm (in entry list)
???	BMW 330i	Collard	Alfisti
Trade Price Cars	???	Hill	sceptic

Millvi · 20 Dec 2019, 08:41 (Ref:3947674)

Add Proctor to listings? Social media posts about news soon...more chance of him having a seat than others already listed as possibles.

crmalcolm · 20 Dec 2019, 08:52 (Ref:3947677)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Millvi

Add Proctor to listings? Social media posts about news soon...more chance of him having a seat than others already listed as possibles.

Where's he linked with? I haven't seen the posts (yet), do they confirm BTCC, and any hint of which seat?

Millvi · 20 Dec 2019, 08:52 (Ref:3947678)

Quote:

Originally Posted by crmalcolm

Where's he linked with? I haven't seen the posts (yet), do they confirm BTCC, and any hint of which seat?

His Facebook and Instagram feeds 2 days ago.....a teasing post with no hints at what car/team. I suspect TPCR myself.

crmalcolm · 20 Dec 2019, 08:56 (Ref:3947679)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Millvi

His Facebook and Instagram feeds 2 days ago.....a teasing post with no hints at what car/team. I suspect TPCR myself.

Thanks - will check them out when I can get access. I've added him as a ???|??? for now......

Evantra · 20 Dec 2019, 11:03 (Ref:3947691)

http://www.btcc.net/2019/12/20/hill-...-wins-in-2020/

Hill in a Honda confirmed! 🙌🏼

porsche962fan · 20 Dec 2019, 11:11 (Ref:3947692)

12 seats fully confirmed

Toyota Corolla - Speedworks - Tom Ingram

Honda Civic - Team Dynamics - Matt Neal
Honda Civic - Team Dynamics - Dan Cammish

Infiniti Q50 - Laser Tools - Aiden Moffat
Infiniti Q50 - Laser Tools - Ash Sutton

VW CC - HARD - Jack Goff
VW CC - HARD - Mike Bushell
VW CC - HARD - ??????

BMW 125 - HARD - Carl Boardley

BMW 125 - Team Parker - Stephen Jelley ??

BMW 3 - WSR - Colin Turkington
BMW 3 - WSR - Tom Oliphant
BMW 3 - WSR - Andrew Jordan

Mercedes - Cicely - Adam Morgan
Mercedes - Cicely - Daniel Rowbottom

Vauxhall Astra - PMR - Jason Plato
Vauxhall Astra - PMR - ????

Hyundai I30 - Excelr8 Motorspor - ???????
Hyundai I30 - Excelr8 Motorspor - ???????

Honda Civic - AMD - Jake Hill
Honda Civic - AMD - ?????

Honda Civic - BTC Racing - Josh Cook ?????
Honda Civic - BTC Racing - Tom Chilton ?????
Honda Civic - BTC Racing - ????????

Honda Civic - Simpson Racing - Matt Simpson ??

Ford Focus - Motorbase - Rory Butcher ??????
Ford Focus - Motorbase - ????
Ford Focus - Motorbase - ????

Audi S3 - TPC - ????
Audi S3 - TPC - ????

Robin Marriott · 20 Dec 2019, 11:15 (Ref:3947694)

Can we have a current list of people who had a seat last year but are unknown so far please?

porsche962fan · 20 Dec 2019, 11:20 (Ref:3947697)

sure

- Rob Collard
- Senna Proctor
- Tom Chilton
- O Jackson
- Hamilton
- Caine
- Cook
- Smiley
- Osbourne
- Rob Smith
- Butcher
- Blundell
- Thomson
- Crees

not confirmed but very likely to return in same seats
- Plato
- Morgan
- Jelley
- Rowbottom
- Simpson

Tordoff looks like he hangs his helmet

Alfisti · 20 Dec 2019, 11:30 (Ref:3947699)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evantra

http://www.btcc.net/2019/12/20/hill-...-wins-in-2020/

Hill in a Honda confirmed! 🙌🏼

Excellent. Best news off the off - season so far in my opinion (Colin continuing wasn't news to me though very very pleased he is). Jake will be in contention to follow in Rory's footsteps and lift the Indy crown. Good outcome for Jake and AmD.

So someone can mark my words...

Colin will successfully defend his championship.

Ditto WSR.

Jake will be Indy champion.

porsche962fan · 20 Dec 2019, 11:31 (Ref:3947700)

if Turks will get another title statistically he will be THE best BTCC driver of all time

Evantra · 20 Dec 2019, 11:44 (Ref:3947701)

Quote:

Originally Posted by porsche962fan

if Turks will get another title statistically he will be THE best BTCC driver of all time

You're forgetting Mark Howard.

crmalcolm · 20 Dec 2019, 11:54 (Ref:3947703)

Quote:

Originally Posted by porsche962fan

if Turks will get another title statistically he will be THE best BTCC driver of all time

Depends on what you measure that against.

He'll move ahead outright in titles won, but Shedden and Neal could also draw level.

He'll probably still only be 4th on race wins come the end of 2020.....

Statistically, Giovanardi is better than Turkington (2 titles in 5 seasons)

porsche962fan · 20 Dec 2019, 12:10 (Ref:3947705)

Quote:

Originally Posted by crmalcolm

Depends on what you measure that against.

5 overall tiles , nobody did that

add to that his 4 indy titles too

it will be a very long time until somone beats it

Craner Curves · 20 Dec 2019, 12:58 (Ref:3947711)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evantra

You're forgetting Mark Howard.

He was certainly the best Mark Howard there's ever been.

Pickles · 20 Dec 2019, 13:09 (Ref:3947712)

People have suggested Proctor to TPC but what about AmD?

S griffin · 20 Dec 2019, 14:38 (Ref:3947736)

Glad to see Hill in a Honda, I would be very surprised if he’s not a consistent front runner next year

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