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15 Jul 2013, 23:28 (Ref:3278157) | #2151 | |
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F1 drivers are not the only guys who are capable of going ten tenths. What would you say now when half of the field is now "pay driver" And half of them have no on track manners(Perez, Maldonado, etc.)
This is just like getting into University. They're more qualified applicants than spots for admission. Take that as you will. This is why we see guys like Benoit Treluyer and Andre Lotterer seemingly come out of nowhere. Last edited by Articus; 15 Jul 2013 at 23:34. |
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15 Jul 2013, 23:33 (Ref:3278159) | #2152 | |
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McNish is an ex-F1-driver as well, and Lotterer has had a sizable single seater career in Japan plus spending some time as an F1 test driver back when those did actually get to drive.
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Audi has won the last 4 years running with Timo Bernhard, Romain Dumas, Mike Rockenfeller, Marcel Fassler, Andre Lotterer, Benoit Treluyer, Tom Kristensen, Allan McNish and Loic Duval. Every one of them clearly can run flat-out in a high downforce, high horsepower car. How many of them have raced in F1, exactly? |
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I would like to see what Maxime Martin could do in an LMP1 car, that guy has some serious potential.
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They're just dying to have a Medion livery for next year?
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To be an F1 driver means you may be capable to win with a single seater formula car, but it doesn't give you any chance to be a star in sportscars, too. You can be fast in P1, but it doesn't mean you can win, nor to be on the same plain of the best in class. I hope to see more endurance specialist drivers than former-F1 drivers, in Porsche team. |
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16 Jul 2013, 08:17 (Ref:3278262) | #2161 | |
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I think Rennen's statement is truth. He didn't say sportscar drivers are overlooked, but that F1 drivers are in the 'trend' and rightfully so. Those F1 drivers are suited for lmp's because lmp is now basically a sprint type race. If you make it to F1 you have serious speed or huge backing. Heidfeld, Davidson, McNish, Nakajima, Wurz, Sarrazin, Webber etc. The list goes on.
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Take as an example the DTM Mercedes young guns (Juncadella, Wickens, Merhi or Vietoris) they are in DTM because they cannot afford F1, not because F1 doesn´t suit their driving styles. |
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As far as the Penske deal, it's an assumption, yes, but..it's logical. It's also been talked about so much that I'm begging to wonder how much truth their is. |
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At this point can we assume Pat Long is not in the running? I just watched Long Beach from 2008 which was probably Pat's best drive in an RS Spyder, and it made me think about him in a prototype again. Not to mention he is my favorite factory driver.
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He was the odd man out in Porsche's factory effort this year. The chances of him getting a P1 ride next year is basically zero.
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17 Jul 2013, 02:12 (Ref:3278578) | #2166 | |
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Pat is always quick in a GT car but he didn't gel with that RS Spyder...I don't see him as a likely candidate either. Im guessing outside of the already confirmed adding Lucas Luhr. Luhr is a known quantity and he won the P2 title for Porsche back in 06.
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17 Jul 2013, 05:10 (Ref:3278599) | #2167 | ||
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Can't find a lot of reason for sending the one American factory driver to Europe to drive lmp1, when they would have to fill his shoes here. He's one of my favorite drivers too. If be some fortunate miracle we get a lmp1 effort going in a series in the us, I would hope he gets a shot at it...
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That would make sense although I'm personally hoping for someone new to P1, there are quite a few drivers I would like to see how they would do in the top class.
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We've had the F1 or not F1 debate before and there is no right answer. A good driver is a good driver and will be able to turn his hand to most forms of racing successfully. But I can't buy an equation which says that an F1 driver = a good LMP driver, just because he's been an F1 driver.... |
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We've had the F1 or not F1 debate before and there is no right answer. A good driver is a good driver and will be able to turn his hand to most forms of racing successfully. But I can't buy an equation which says that an F1 driver = a good LMP driver, just because he's been an F1 driver.... We all know there are drivers in F1 (and always have been), who aren't there on merit..... Still - back to the topic...... |
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17 Jul 2013, 14:13 (Ref:3278729) | #2171 | |
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With a number of P2 teams happy to rent out seats at WEC/ELMS rounds it would be cool to see Porsche try out some young guns in protos.
Not sure they will be in a position to do driver testing 'shoot-outs' to fill seats. I might be wrong though. |
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Mike Fuller reporting that Penske has in fact signed deal to run P1 Porsche - " Penske HAS signed deal to run Porsche LMP1; BUT, crew is openly being solicited for operations...in Germany. Seems then WEC 4 Penske/Porsche" - Mike Fuller
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As in Penske/Porsche works team or Penske/Porsche in addtition to Porsche AG works team?
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17 Jul 2013, 15:19 (Ref:3278751) | #2175 | ||
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I went to mulsannescorner and found nothing newer than June. Can you provide a link please?
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