What is Aston Martin up to? - Page 89

gwyllion · 8 Mar 2011, 15:50 (Ref:2842181)

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Originally Posted by chernaudi

On the engine deal, all LMP2 engines have to have a stock-block base, with a 3.2 turbo V6/inline 6, homologated GT2 engines of up to 4.0 liters, and a 5.0 stock block NA V8 being the proscribed rules for the new LMP2 cars.

Is it that difficult for you to read the rules

There is no distinction between homologated GT2 and stock block engines in the LMP2 rules

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ART. 5 – ENGINE
5.1 - Engine specifications :
5.1.1 - Engine : Homologated
5.1.2 – displacement limit
a/ Normally aspirated engines: 5000 cm3 8 cyl. maximum
b/Turbo/Supercharged engines (gasoline): 3200 cm3 6 cyl. maximum
c/ Superpercharged engine (diesel): Forbidden
...
5.6 LMP2 homologated Engine
5.6.1 Type
a. The engine must be made in a minimum of 1000 units in 12 consecutive months and come :
− Either from a grand touring car,
− Or from a large production car.
It is made reliable for competition use and developed to reach the output target of 450 hp without exceeding the price below:
...

BTW none of the LMP2 engines we will see this year, comes from a GT2 car. The Nissan V8 comes from SuperGT and the HPD and Judd are completely new production based engines.

chernaudi · 8 Mar 2011, 17:19 (Ref:2842225)

Was there a mention about the 4.0 GT2 limit, as I do believe I read something to that effect a few times in the past? I think that Dagys reported on that when the ACO finalized their rules.

If the 4.0 limit on GT2 engines is null and void, then that opens things up, as the V8 Vantage engine at 4.7-5.0 liters will be allowed, but I think that with the LMP1 and various GT programs, AMR probably has too many cookie jars with hands in them to support such a program, though a future inline 6 stock block engine could be in the cards if the new 2.0T inline 6 from the AMR-One shows promise and AM themselves make inline 6 road car engines. However, that's one stone that's definetly unturned.

Speaking of which, I know that the LMP1 version of the V12 had DFI and the new inline 6 does, but does any production Aston used DFI yet (the trickle down effect from the race engines)? The Virage (a DB9 variant that slots between the base DB9 and the DBS) has been launched, but it looks like it uses a tweaked V12 without DFI.

cmk · 8 Mar 2011, 20:03 (Ref:2842293)

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Originally Posted by rich07

Thanks for posting that Simmi! Wonderful vision and sound. A beautiful car which will look even better in that Gulf livery. Its a shame Aston doesnt have a works team with a pair of pros in 2011 in GT but they're a bit distracted at the moment

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We don't know who will partner Tomas Enge when the YD Vantage GT2 comes out to play; that could be an all-pro lineup!

JayBMS · 8 Mar 2011, 20:17 (Ref:2842299)

Alex Müller & Christoffer Nygaard will partner Enge in the YD vantage

JayBMS · 8 Mar 2011, 20:18 (Ref:2842300)

Also spoke to Cocker today, wont be him in the P1 car.

cmk · 8 Mar 2011, 20:57 (Ref:2842313)

Should have realized that Nygaard would still be involved somehow in the program. Enge/Muller is a good pairing though!

rich07 · 9 Mar 2011, 00:11 (Ref:2842418)

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Originally Posted by cmk

We don't know who will partner Tomas Enge when the YD Vantage GT2 comes out to play; that could be an all-pro lineup!

Ah yes the Young Driver car-my memory has been shocking of late....

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Originally Posted by JayBMS

Alex Müller & Christoffer Nygaard will partner Enge in the YD vantage

I would say Nygaard is the weakest link cause Muller and Enge are the stars but all the same that is a good lineup.

old man · 9 Mar 2011, 11:04 (Ref:2842628)

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Originally Posted by JayBMS

Also spoke to Cocker today, wont be him in the P1 car.

Sad, any hint of a drive at all?

KA · 9 Mar 2011, 12:05 (Ref:2842653)

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Originally Posted by old man

Sad, any hint of a drive at all?

Apparently testing a British GT Porsche for Trackspeed today at Silverstone, so maybe a return to British GT for at least part of the season? Hoping he'll find a drive somewhere in LMS/ILMC etc at some point though

old man · 9 Mar 2011, 14:48 (Ref:2842739)

David Richards doesn't see it as a 20 year old design, still, what does he know?

http://www.crash.net/le+mans/news/16...a_warfare.html

old man · 9 Mar 2011, 14:56 (Ref:2842744)

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Originally Posted by KA

Apparently testing a British GT Porsche for Trackspeed today at Silverstone, so maybe a return to British GT for at least part of the season? Hoping he'll find a drive somewhere in LMS/ILMC etc at some point though

Intersting, he won that with GruppeM co-driving with Sugden in what, 2004? Then went on to win Porsche Carrera Cup Asia in following year for same sponsor. Accoring to Sugden's website he is still managed by Tim Sugden Motorsport

I am sure he would prefer LMP but he must keep his name up there

NightStalk3r · 9 Mar 2011, 21:44 (Ref:2843010)

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Originally Posted by Simmi

Meanwhile, in non LMP1 news. Gulf AMR Middle East testing at the Bugatti circuit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ntmhizc1gtM

How exactly have they gotten away with entering a 2011 Spec car in GTE Am?

cmk · 9 Mar 2011, 21:49 (Ref:2843013)

It looks like Richard Westbrook will be racing for Trackspeed in the other car when he can, so that would be a great yardstick for Cocker to measure himself against.

Victor_RO · 10 Mar 2011, 05:04 (Ref:2843170)

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Originally Posted by NightStalk3r

How exactly have they gotten away with entering a 2011 Spec car in GTE Am?

Waivers/ACO dispensation probably, we know the GT2 Vantage isn't exactly the fastest car out there.

MarkLMS · 10 Mar 2011, 07:06 (Ref:2843193)

planetlemans says here http://www.planetlemans.com/2011/03/...-the-americas/ that aston will enter 2 AMR ONEs on spa!
is that correct? because i can't believe it

gwyllion · 10 Mar 2011, 07:16 (Ref:2843196)

That article is from the ACO: http://www.lemans.org/en/news/The-IL...cas-_3018.html They should know how many entries a team has applied for.

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A total of six AMR-ONEs will be built, (DSC believes that 5 are already sold with several potential buyers vying for the final car) with the factory team running one car in the Intercontinental Le Mans Cup (ILMC) and two cars at selected events.

source: http://www.dailysportscar.com/viewAr...D67673EDFA83F9

MarkLMS · 10 Mar 2011, 07:24 (Ref:2843201)

ok good news and with the kronos with them, there are 3 aston's to see!!!

jc_nl · 10 Mar 2011, 07:27 (Ref:2843202)

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Originally Posted by NightStalk3r

How exactly have they gotten away with entering a 2011 Spec car in GTE Am?

Not sure about the difference between 2010 and 2011 cars but could it be a new car built to last years spec?

Tim the Grey · 10 Mar 2011, 10:14 (Ref:2843293)

Maybe it's a 2010 unsold one? Maybe it's a refurb. I haven't gone into details on the particular car, just thinking aloud...

Someone will, in a minute, and prove me wrong.

**Bentley03** · 10 Mar 2011, 10:17 (Ref:2843295)

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Originally Posted by MarkLMS

planetlemans says here http://www.planetlemans.com/2011/03/...-the-americas/ that aston will enter 2 AMR ONEs on spa!
is that correct? because i can't believe it

Makes sense.......Le Mans dress rehearsal.

The Badger · 10 Mar 2011, 10:28 (Ref:2843300)

What am I looking at ...... in the above picture . Its the OAK racing Pesca with possibily a double tier rear wing ?

Félix · 10 Mar 2011, 10:32 (Ref:2843304)

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Originally Posted by jc_nl

Not sure about the difference between 2010 and 2011 cars but could it be a new car built to last years spec?

Well the engine sounds very 2011 to me. They probably can't/won't race a 2010 engine anymore but this all seems to defeat the purpose of the regs...

Félix · 10 Mar 2011, 10:34 (Ref:2843307)

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Originally Posted by The Badger

What am I looking at ...... in the above picture . Its the OAK racing Pesca with possibily a double tier rear wing ?

They're probably travelling with a second rear bodywork on top of the normal one. Makes sense to package it this way.

Tim the Grey · 10 Mar 2011, 10:56 (Ref:2843323)

Same as Paugeot and Audi enter 3 cars each. It gets the team used to things, and running all the cars...

courageous · 11 Mar 2011, 13:30 (Ref:2843947)

Not worthy of a thread itself & not really enough news to cobble together a Britcar thread yet, but news from yesterday's media day:

Despite his new job at Aston Martin, John Gaw will return to the Silverstone 24hr this year in the MJC Ferrari.
From 2012 he can only drive Aston Martins

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