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The roof is fine, just bring the front and rear up to meet it.
I'd have thought there'd be more leeway in the design of the bumpers and sideskirts, so as to hide much of the awkwardness. |
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Ironic in that this series was born out of "what the punters want".
25 years later, they now tell the punters what they want. |
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They managed to alienate not just BMW and Nissan, but Toyota, Mitsubishi and Alfa Romeo too. 2000cc rules on the other hand, would have allowed for wonderful variety as seen in the BTCC... Instead you just got two weak series -- only 10 professional cars in ATCC, and another 5 or 6 professional cars in Super Touring, then privateers making up the rest... Nissan, BMW, Toyota, Ford and Holden all competing on equal footing! Wouldn't it have been grand. Such a shame. While it was amusing how the early 5.0L cars handled and the degree of forcefulness in getting the softly sprung sliding, pitching, rolling uncooperative thing around a circuit -- the modern Supercars sadly handle nowhere near as bad, and is not nearly as amusing. Last edited by V8 Fireworks; 9 Nov 2018 at 20:32. |
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Those endplates are unreal.
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Similarly, anyone who spent enough money was able to develop nearly any saloon into a competitive Super Tourer from what I can gather. At various times, the car to beat was the Cavalier, Mondeo, 3 series, Toyota Carina, Alfa Romeo 155, Audi A4, Volvo S40, Nissan Primera and finally the Mondeo again (finally in Prodrive built hatchback form, rather than the early sedan Andy Rouse built form). A huge variety of successful cars! The Vectra and Accord were thereabouts too. The only works car that was never all that competitive was the Peugeot 406, presumably due to insufficient development. Naturally Audi were encouraged, politically, to change from AWD to FWD, and that simplified the equivalence of the different drive layouts. Indeed! They are obviously allowed under the rules, and therefore Ford Performance have chosen to do so for these advantages: - Preventing spillage into the low pressure zone under the rear wing. - Aerodynamically stabilising the car when it's at a slip angle (much like the tailfins in F1 or LMP racing). Last edited by V8 Fireworks; 10 Nov 2018 at 03:58. |
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I am told the end plates are bigger than they will end up being to evaluate different positions of the wing, with wider adjustment than will be homologated. Makes a lot of sense.
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Mustang my ****,thats just a Falcon with a pony on the grill.
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More branding space potential on the side of the wing than on the rest of the car |
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Here is an interesting question.
Scotty Mac is the team mate slayer. Guys who really can drive have looked average and worse next to him, in cars engineered to his preference. Will anybody else be able to drive the Mustang? Sent from my SM-G960F using Tapatalk |
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I only hope it looks less dreadful with a proper livery. (Plus a less radical rear wing)
I thought the AU was ugly, but this beats the AU hands down in the ugly dept.. |
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Surely they have over-done the low-ness of the headlights and grille. I realise there will be a performance advantage, but surely Supercars could step in and require it look a bit a) better and b) more like the production car?
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When you get down to it, the problem here is the EXACT same problem that NASCAR has - the chassis and bodywork rules were designed with big sedans in mind, not sporty coupes. The NASCAR Cup Series Chevy SS, Ford Fusion, and Toyota Camry all looked nice, but once Chevy moved to the Camaro, and now Ford to the Mustang, the exact same things came to be an issue.
But I still say the Supercars chassis allowed them to retain more Mustang-esque curves and gave us a better result than what NASCAR gave us. And while it won't solve ALL of the aesthetic oddness, I feel fairly certain the cars proportions will look far less out of whack once the proper wing endplates are fitted. (an NHRA Pro Stock style hood bulge might improve the look, as well) |
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The Supra roof doesn't look high enough
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That was my first thought. They can the Mustang, yet bang on about how Toyota could be tempted with a very low roofed Supra.
Camaro, GTR, Supra and any other sporty coupe would all suffer the same fate under the current control chassis. Sent from my SM-G960F using Tapatalk |
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