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27 Jun 2017, 14:20 (Ref:3747309) | #201 | |
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Ilmor, Mercedes, McLaren and Alonso to Indy for a full season?
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Briatore: So... what do you think about Alonso at Mercedes next year? Lauda and Wolff: No Seriously, regarding Alonso and Mercedes. Never say never, but probably highly unlikely unless Hamilton was out of the picture. I have no doubt however that Briatore is trying to explore all options. It is his job. Quote:
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Also, as someone else pointed out. We are not yet even half way through the season. There is still time for McLaren/Honda to show improvement... or continue to struggle. Richard |
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realistically, how much of a budget can Mclaren put together for 2018 if they drop Honda? decreased prize monies, going from free to pay engines, paying for their own drivers, and short a title sponsor...one way or another its a tough road ahead for Mclaren regardless of whose engine they use. is it even worth their while to retain the very expensive Alonso? |
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My 2 cents is that if a full time Indy ride happens, it is more your scenario (still part of the Honda/McLaren family) than Greem's scenario. Either way, I also would not be surprised if Indycar (either full season or just the 500) factors into Alonso next year.
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I still think that barring a Mercedes, Ferrari or maybe Red Bull ride, Alonso's best chance remains with McLaren figuring their engine issue out. Alonso has complimented the chassis quite a bit.
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Um, Brawn?
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A different era, and the works (McLaren) chassis wasn't good enough to win. And the Brawn takeover to become the new works team was always in the pipeline x
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Not a good idea. The point being, as explained in the article, the mid field and back markers need that focus time on their car, and only their car, for a few hours/days so their sponsors etc. get maximum exposure. |
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If done right, I think it could be a boon for the midfield or backmarker teams from a marking exposure/sponsorship perspective. The cars will be the stars and might offer up a good bit of exposure for big and small sponsors. They could present the cars and maybe drivers in reverse championship order and give each team roughly the same amount of time on stage. Focus on one team at a time. Imagine slow pans over the cars showing sponsor logos while a team specific voiceover talks about whatever they want to focus on (the design, the sponsors, etc.). Not knowing exactly when a fans particular favorite team may be shown, so the are likely to watch either it all, or at a minimum more that what would have been maybe a single team launch. Diehard fans like us could enjoy this much like a live race in that we plus technical experts can chat and post live during the event. Not to mention other social media aspects such as a live tweet wall for example.
But it could be done badly with all presented at the exact same time and with the powerhouse teams up front at the expense of the others. No or poor social media integration, etc. Richard |
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29 Jun 2017, 13:13 (Ref:3747792) | #216 | |
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Interesting idea, but only if all the teams have their cars ready by whatever that date is. How many launches have been postponed in recent years, or even moved to be at the first open test session?
That said, it happens in lots of other series and it gets the viewing public concentrating in the series as a whole rather than piecemeal on separate teams. That benefits everyone. |
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and to be honest, official team launches have become pretty stale as of late with not much more being shown other than the teams upcoming livery, driver lineups, and sponsor announcements. most of the interesting technical bits are always held back for the tests/first race anyways. |
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Unfortunately as said above it would not work, for teams who leave it late would be up against. Maybe have a launch of the championship after the testing?
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Given that teams regularly hide or leave out key details of the cars during these events as well as change a number of things between testing and the first race, the "event" cars are pretty much "show" cars. So teams would expected to bring "something" to the media event to show but could still continue to refine the actual car. Others with more knowledge can speak, but my perception is that many teams have scaled back on these types of presentations because they may not see the value in them. Or rather the ROI on all that would be required to make it happen. And that time and money can be spent elsewhere. But if the focus is a combination of promoting both F1 in general as well as individual teams, plus some level of either cost sharing (everyone doesn't have to individually deal with the particulars of organizing a media event) as well as maybe F1 itself funding some or all this this... The economics might switch for the team? Richard |
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Back on the sibject of drivers I think Grosjean might be vulnerable.
He's not having a good year and Magnussen seems to be able to handle the brake maladies better (and complains less!) I thought it was fanciful of pundits to be asking him about his Ferrari ties with regards to any vacancy at Maranello. Leclerc may also have jumped Giovinazzi in the queue for any Ferrari supported drives? |
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i don't think leclerc and giovinazzi are the same thing to ferrari. leclerc is their modern day bianchi, someone they're nurturing and developing. how much fun would a giovinazzi/leclerc pairing at ferrari be though |
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Grosjean seems to lose confidence when his brakes go, whereas Magnussen copes with it. He showed in Baku what he could do and I'm sure he'll stay
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