2014 British F3 Silly Season - Page 9

**gomick** · 27 Jul 2014, 04:17 (Ref:3438582)

Why are only some of the guest drivers eligible for points? Merhi got points, Jones didn't...

el_cat · 27 Jul 2014, 06:36 (Ref:3438614)

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Originally Posted by gomick

Why are only some of the guest drivers eligible for points? Merhi got points, Jones didn't...

Eligibility of car, or more specifically the engine.

Jones (and Gelael) are both running their Euro F3 cars, which have the new generation powerplant in and thus aren't eligible for the championship.

Merhi is racing an older spec engine, and counts for the championship

Biscuits In A Red Bull · 27 Jul 2014, 08:05 (Ref:3438623)

Precisely. That's also why Jones and Gelael walked through the field. Trevor Carlin used the event to give his drivers a confidence boost.

**gomick** · 27 Jul 2014, 10:04 (Ref:3438660)

Ah, I see - thanks for the info

qwertyuiop · 27 Jul 2014, 17:09 (Ref:3438896)

I see F3 Cup leader Toby Sowery, in his much older F305, was quicker than some of the British F3 runners around Spa.
I would love to see him in a later F3 car for 2015.

Biscuits In A Red Bull · 27 Jul 2014, 18:02 (Ref:3438934)

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Originally Posted by qwertyuiop

I see F3 Cup leader Toby Sowery, in his much older F305, was quicker than some of the British F3 runners around Spa.
I would love to see him in a later F3 car for 2015.

Sowery looks very talented, unlike the British F3 field

Juntos · 29 Jul 2014, 15:48 (Ref:3439740)

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Originally Posted by Biscuits In A Red Bull

Sowery looks very talented, unlike the British F3 field

I don't think Matt Rao's father agrees with you.

If Sowery has a car, a team and tons of talent, what is he waiting for to join the ranks of British F3? He has just six weak opponents to beat to the throne. Sometimes it's hard to see the lines we've drawn. Until we cross them.

davyboy · 29 Jul 2014, 16:22 (Ref:3439757)

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Originally Posted by Juntos

I don't think Matt Rao's father agrees with you.

If Sowery has a car, a team and tons of talent, what is he waiting for to join the ranks of British F3? He has just six weak opponents to beat to the throne. Sometimes it's hard to see the lines we've drawn. Until we cross them.

Bit of a difference in budget between BF3 and F3 Cup.

edenrace · 29 Jul 2014, 19:42 (Ref:3439839)

Sorry but did not Peter Li who is near the back in British F3 nearly win last time the F3 Cup ran at Spa?

andrewc · 29 Jul 2014, 20:00 (Ref:3439852)

there is a bit of a budget differential between BF3 and F3 Cup!

qwertyuiop · 29 Jul 2014, 20:25 (Ref:3439866)

I didnt mean to start an argument between the Brit F3 and Club F3 teams/drivers. Please accept my apologies .

I do feel it should be pointed out that club F3 cars run 15 kgs heavier than BF3 cars and Club F3 cars run a smaller 26 mm restrictor compared to a 28mm restrictor on the BF3 cars. Also, not forgetting the BF3 cars are the newer f308/312.

Given these facts, it's a generally held belief that a BF3 car is around 4secs quicker than a Club F3 car around Spa.

These facts are the reason I believe the top Club F3 drivers would be at the front of the BF3 series.

Not sure why Matt Rao's dad would have any interest in my or Biscuits views.

JohnMiller · 29 Jul 2014, 20:41 (Ref:3439874)

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Originally Posted by qwertyuiop

Given these facts

Facts? British F3 cars run 26mm restrictors and I recall the tyres are harder as well.

andrewc · 29 Jul 2014, 21:24 (Ref:3439890)

FIA new generation engines are 28mm
BF3 / F3 Cup F3 spec engines are 26mm, with national class f3 engines having a fractionally bigger restrictor

The long life engines used in various championships often have a larger restrictor, I think the Toyota engines are 31mm.

Weights
F3 Cup 305-307 - 565kg, 397-304 - 555kg, but I know many cars/drivers combined are never worried about being underweight. Repairs, repaints and fondness for beer add to the weight.

Biscuits In A Red Bull · 11 Aug 2014, 16:16 (Ref:3443494)

Brit FF frontrunner (now race winner) Max Marshall will replace the European F3-bound Andy Chang at Double R for Thruxton, and I believe the rest of the season.

Yes, grid numbers have been, for each round, 7, 7, 6 and 14, but Thruxton has pulled a few more and the racing hasn't been too bad. The title race is pretty interesting with Cao having fallen back in the last couple of meetings, allowing Rao to take a 4-point lead with 9 races to go.

What happened to Ghorpade? He was supposed to be at Spa...

remdev · 11 Aug 2014, 19:56 (Ref:3443545)

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Originally Posted by Biscuits In A Red Bull

Brit FF frontrunner (now race winner) Max Marshall will replace the European F3-bound Andy Chang at Double R for Thruxton, and I believe the rest of the season.

Yes, grid numbers have been, for each round, 7, 7, 6 and 14, but Thruxton has pulled a few more and the racing hasn't been too bad. The title race is pretty interesting with Cao having fallen back in the last couple of meetings, allowing Rao to take a 4-point lead with 9 races to go.

What happened to Ghorpade? He was supposed to be at Spa...

About Ghorpade : "Formula 3 programme on hold due to injury" : http://www.parthghorpade.com/news_2014.html

andrewc · 12 Aug 2014, 13:09 (Ref:3443682)

I would have hoped the lure of Thruxton would have pulled in some more names, but the provisional entry list issued today is just 5 cars.

BtccLee · 12 Aug 2014, 21:07 (Ref:3443805)

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Originally Posted by andrewc

I would have hoped the lure of Thruxton would have pulled in some more names, but the provisional entry list issued today is just 5 cars.

As per the above post, I thought it was set to be a a season high of fourteen, with some prominent additions on the entry...

jondownunder · 12 Aug 2014, 23:19 (Ref:3443826)

I think Spa was always going to be the season high. Was expecting a single digit entry figure for Thruxton, but disappointed there are no one-offs for Harry Tincknell (announced for Double R back in April) or Alex Lynn who at one point was planning to contest this round.

Juntos · 15 Aug 2014, 21:31 (Ref:3444559)

Kids are not all right. Did Alex Lynn, Harry Tincknell and William Buller all get scared of the strong opposition of Matt Rao, Cao and Cia? It's a cold Summer. Time to donate that fall wardrobe to the help and to present the world with a better version of you. Which could mean facing your future... and forgetting past mistakes. Or finally settling on a brand new path. But a half of season doesn't wipe away old problems.

Irony plays a lot in motor racing. Did the FOTA-managed Andy Chang move from British Formula 3 to FIA European F3? Well. Here's my advice: have a little faith, and if that doesn't work, a lot of Mimosas.

davyboy · 16 Aug 2014, 08:22 (Ref:3444622)

Does anybody know what the post above is supposed to mean ?

touring fan01 · 16 Aug 2014, 12:15 (Ref:3444646)

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Originally Posted by davyboy

Does anybody know what the post above is supposed to mean ?

Dont take drugs?

Biscuits In A Red Bull · 16 Aug 2014, 13:55 (Ref:3444662)

Rao claims a double-pole at Thruxton. Cao will start 2nd for both races. The title battle continues to look interesting, and hopefully all 5 cars can race each other instead of circulate.

davyboy · 16 Aug 2014, 14:34 (Ref:3444668)

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Originally Posted by Biscuits In A Red Bull

The title battle continues to look interesting

Does it ?

p-matt · 16 Aug 2014, 15:53 (Ref:3444678)

How come GP3 is virtually ignored here, yet we've got a 15 page thread about a rubbish shell of a championship?!

Is it because at least 13 or those 15 pages are about how rubbish BF3 is this year?!

Biscuits In A Red Bull · 16 Aug 2014, 17:31 (Ref:3444690)

Cao won, and Kaminsky managed to crash into Max Marshall...

...and yes Davyboy, the title fight is close, even if on-track it isn't exciting at all.

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