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Alonso pleaded ignorance
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Well, while I like to read the usual experts that we're all used to post here (like Joe Saward) and those we read in english-written websites, I always wait for a trusty (at least on my side) source as a friend of mine who is a newspaper journalist for F1. Obviously, it's a matter of perspective, and in this case, which is involved a brazilian driver, I guess people might have different views about it.
Livio Oricchio - usually you'll find his name in the questions post-race press meetings - writing from Monza, in his last article, comments the allegations from Autosport and Autosprint, but more importantly, explains how the Piquets had approached FIA, in a similar agreement that Alonso made... http://www.estadao.com.br/estadaodeh...mp432394,0.php |
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I wish they'd just get on with it...
Everybody knows - it's F1's worst kept "secret". Selby |
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Uhn... I guess now it's confirmed. Reginaldo Leme, the one who raised the issue to the public, have spoken again in Monza: http://globoesporte.globo.com/Esport...EMEDITADO.html. FIA has made a deal with Piquet Jnr and won't be punished just like Alonso in the McLaren spygate... Max Mosley is getting full revenge now.
Let's see in how long people here will post this as official from an english site... |
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Yes, I'd be curious to know what you mean by the tip of the iceberg reference, Bononi.
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Iceberg brand used to be Bernie's (in Brabham and later F1 organisation) sponsor...
But yes, it could be a tip of the iceberg that could crush Renault F1/Briatore in full. |
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The height of journalism the "Daily Mirror" has written a piece on it today. It must be serious.
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The plain fact is that the FIA aren't going to call a WMSC extraordinary meeting because Nelson Piquet Snr told the FIA that his son was told to crash on purpose.As Bononi says (and some others) this is just the tip of the Iceberg.
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Surely if the Piquet's are making serious allegations against Renault, and the FIA don't call a meeting, dispite no action being taken, Renault may always be percieved to have cheated? Surely, the FIA has to call a meeting?
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Jack Nicholson's soliloquy from "A Few Good Men" just popped into my mind:
"You want the truth? You can't handle the truth!" "You want me on that wall. You need me on that wall!" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hopNAI8Pefg I don't think Nicholson is doing much of anything at the moment. Maybe Flav can hire him to stand in for Piquet on the 21st. Tom |
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If the FIA could not find any other evidence/imformation to back up the 'hearsay' then no further action would be taken.This is only the same way that things are done in the 'real world'.Which suggests to me that the FIA have more than just a signed statement from Piquet Jnr.
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If I remember correctly when Jake Humphreys interviewed Max he (Max) referred to the "loonies" and said that Flav was the leader and wanted to run F1. Maybe this is payback time for Flav? We have seen before that once the FIA get you in their cross hairs your number is up.
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Also I suspect that Nelson Sr., due to his connections, could be the person who could have opened to Flav the doors to Bernie's friendship... Perhaps could be the man who could close that friendship, too?
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A chat with Max
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Exclusion from this year's championship would be a rubbish punishment for Renault a la Schumacher 1997. They've had a poor year and would probably count themselves fortunate were that to happen.
A huge fine or exclusion from next year's championship would be a better idea. |
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If Renault are excluded from next year's championship, they will leave the sport for good. And the FIA won't want that
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Yes sadly such considerations will most likely be taken, rather than solely assessing the situation.
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Other things are riding on this, such as who will supply Williams with engines? Toyota after all?
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