[BTCC] Brands Hatch 6/7 May 23, Rounds 4/5/6

[S griffin]

Originally Posted by Aysedasi

Yep. As a very 'casual' BTCC watcher, the chicane seemed to be rendered pretty pointless by what I saw.

Yes, I remember when it was pretty much straight-lined. Before that it was a spectacular sight cars clipping the kerbs through there. They've since put in better kerbs to stop people cutting though I believe

BTW, wasn't it refreshing to hear Dan Cam in an interview during the stoppage of R1 instead of moaning about the BMW/RWD start advantage, just say, quite rightly, all cars have their strengths and weaknesses. I've always felt the same

[Michael Foley]

Originally Posted by redshoes

The cynic in me says they won't. Over the years we've seen the Neal vs Plato rivalry help to boost the series, and with both of those now retired they need a replacement.

Sutton is in the muller position.

He ain't a panto villain like plato was.

Sutton is one of those drivers you would just love to slap.

[billy bleach]

Originally Posted by Michael Foley

Sutton is in the muller position.

He ain't a panto villain like plato was.

Sutton is one of those drivers you would just love to slap.

How grown up

[redshoes]

I wasn't suggesting that Collard / Sutton would be a direct replacement for either Neal or Plato but just that TOCA like to see some rivalry and public bickering as it's good for fan engagement and press headlines

[Greem]

Originally Posted by Michael Foley

Sutton is in the muller position.

He ain't a panto villain like plato was.

Sutton is one of those drivers you would just love to slap.

Real high quality discourse there, thanks for that.

Sutton seems to me to be far and away the best driver in the field. His ability to drive pretty much anything to the maximum and sometimes a bit beyond yet not end up in the neighbouring corn fields is something to relish, not hate.

I reckon when he gets bored with the BTCC he could pick and choose from any number of overseas series - hell, even NASCAR - and be up at the pointy end pretty quickly.

[hen henths]

Roll on Snett' so we can hopefully change the subject!

Originally Posted by Greem

I reckon when he gets bored with the BTCC he could pick and choose from any number of overseas series - hell, even NASCAR - and be up at the pointy end pretty quickly.

Pretty sure you're right.

[DaviePHD]

Originally Posted by Greem

I reckon when he gets bored with the BTCC he could pick and choose from any number of overseas series - hell, even NASCAR - and be up at the pointy end pretty quickly.

My Money is on Aussie V8's, and I reckon he'd kick ass.

[Michael Foley]

Originally Posted by Greem

Real high quality discourse there, thanks for that.

Sutton seems to me to be far and away the best driver in the field. His ability to drive pretty much anything to the maximum and sometimes a bit beyond yet not end up in the neighbouring corn fields is something to relish, not hate.

I reckon when he gets bored with the BTCC he could pick and choose from any number of overseas series - hell, even NASCAR - and be up at the pointy end pretty quickly.

I don't agree with you but I'm not attacking you.

Its my opinion, you might wanna kiss the guy.
Others on the other hand might not.

[fergus_r]

Originally Posted by DaviePHD

My Money is on Aussie V8's, and I reckon he'd kick ass.

He did actually take part in an 'evaluation day' back at the start of 2018 with Walkinshaw Andretti:

https://au.motorsport.com/v8supercar...16417/1397347/

[Matt K]

Originally Posted by DaviePHD

My Money is on Aussie V8's, and I reckon he'd kick ass.

Oh I'd love to see Ash in Supercars! It's proven to be terribly difficult for foreigners (ie not Aussies or Kiwis) but my impression is Sutton could belong there and race those cars pretty fast!

[Pickles]

Changing the subject slightly as its been a few days now... didn't Bobby T do well?

[Evantra]

Originally Posted by Pickles

Changing the subject slightly as its been a few days now... didn't Bobby T do well?

Seems to be something about Brands Hatch! 6th in the championship! Hope it lasts, that side of the garage at least is going well.

Feel like the top five is going to be set in stone now - Cammish, Sutton, Ingram, Turkington and Hill in some order.


Also nice to see Pearson qualifying great again and be rewarded with a couple point scoring finishes,

[billy bleach]

Originally Posted by Matt K

Oh I'd love to see Ash in Supercars! It's proven to be terribly difficult for foreigners (ie not Aussies or Kiwis) but my impression is Sutton could belong there and race those cars pretty fast!

Didn’t he test there a while ago?

[Matt K]

Originally Posted by billy bleach

Didn’t he test there a while ago?

He did, as mentioned by another poster

[WestHam92]

Originally Posted by crmalcolm

This forum does have a search function.

Oh touché sir, touché

[Pickles]

Originally Posted by Evantra

Feel like the top five is going to be set in stone now - Cammish, Sutton, Ingram, Turkington and Hill in some order.


Also nice to see Pearson qualifying great again and be rewarded with a couple point scoring finishes

Think you could be right, interesting to see who makes up the rest of the top 10 at the end of the season. Anyone betting against Sutton for the title?

[hen henths]

Originally Posted by Pickles

Anyone betting against Sutton for the title?

I get the feeling he will get it this year, considering he came quite close last year and how much better developed the Ford is now.

It's far from certain though as he could quite easily have a lot more weekends like Donington, the competition is as strong as ever, and I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if boost levels get tweaked at some point from where they are now.

The more interesting question is who's his biggest challenger this year? If Sutton wins, who will be 2nd?

[porsche962fan]

the thing that Sutton somehow does what others can't is to drive fast on cold tyres

[billy bleach]

Originally Posted by hen henths

I get the feeling he will get it this year, considering he came quite close last year and how much better developed the Ford is now.

It's far from certain though as he could quite easily have a lot more weekends like Donington, the competition is as strong as ever, and I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if boost levels get tweaked at some point from where they are now.

The more interesting question is who's his biggest challenger this year? If Sutton wins, who will be 2nd?

Why would TOCA adjust boost levels? Everybody seems to be saying the Ford chassis is on rails and that's not power

[hen henths]

Originally Posted by billy bleach

Why would TOCA adjust boost levels? Everybody seems to be saying the Ford chassis is on rails and that's not power

I don't think they should adjust them in this case. It's just an observation over the years that it happens a lot. I also wasn't necessarily suggesting the Ford would get the adjustment - maybe one of the others will get an increase in boost.

[billy bleach]

Originally Posted by hen henths

I don't think they should adjust them in this case. It's just an observation over the years that it happens a lot. I also wasn't necessarily suggesting the Ford would get the adjustment - maybe one of the others will get an increase in boost.

So thats how hard work is rewarded? Might aswell build a rubbish car and wait for a leg up!

[hen henths]

Originally Posted by billy bleach

So thats how hard work is rewarded? Might aswell build a rubbish car and wait for a leg up!

Again, I quite agree with you. And I don't have any information on this, it's pure speculation.

[touring fan01]

Originally Posted by hen henths

I don't think they should adjust them in this case. It's just an observation over the years that it happens a lot. I also wasn't necessarily suggesting the Ford would get the adjustment - maybe one of the others will get an increase in boost.

people love a consipracy theory
it doesnt 'happen a lot'

it happened when they were trying to find the right boost levels of the subaru boxer engine because it was so different and i think it happened early last year when they were finding the right level for the all new toca engine. but they dont constantly play with boost levels during the year just to reduce the success of a car or driver or to make one faster

[hen henths]

Originally Posted by touring fan01

people love a consipracy theory
it doesnt 'happen a lot'

it happened when they were trying to find the right boost levels of the subaru boxer engine because it was so different and i think it happened early last year when they were finding the right level for the all new toca engine. but they dont constantly play with boost levels during the year just to reduce the success of a car or driver or to make one faster

Once or twice every year or so seems like a lot to me, given how much it can change the results. It's been done to a few different cars over the years.

[touring fan01]

Originally Posted by hen henths

Once or twice every year or so seems like a lot to me, given how much it can change the results. It's been done to a few different cars over the years.

over the last five years name those cars and drivers that have had the boost changed during the season once or twice every year apart from those two i mentioned