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15 Feb 2017, 02:42 (Ref:3712262) | #2326 | ||
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15 Feb 2017, 02:54 (Ref:3712263) | #2327 | |
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'Honda' DPi could be a general term, as in the Honda group. Pruett's article didn't say what it will be badged btw. Doesn't matter, neither Acura nor Honda currently have a nice design language. But if they join and win, it'll be great.
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15 Feb 2017, 06:29 (Ref:3712295) | #2328 | ||
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Much more than you think. To suggest he wrote something for clickbait... well... that's possibly one of the most ridiculous things I've ever read. He isn't that kid of a journalist.
I suppose that Graham Goodwin is wrong as well? Stop it. You are making yourself look beyond silly. |
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“We’re trying to close the doors without embarrassing ourselves, the France family and embarrassing (the) Grand American Series,” he said in the deposition. “There is no money. There is no purse. There’s nothing.” |
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“We’re trying to close the doors without embarrassing ourselves, the France family and embarrassing (the) Grand American Series,” he said in the deposition. “There is no money. There is no purse. There’s nothing.” |
15 Feb 2017, 06:34 (Ref:3712297) | #2330 | |
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Until it's raced or a press release is put out, nothing anyone says is official. So this argument is pointless. Too often people are portraying themselves as insiders and then their information is wrong, so I don't think anyone should say their words are right while others are wrong.
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“We’re trying to close the doors without embarrassing ourselves, the France family and embarrassing (the) Grand American Series,” he said in the deposition. “There is no money. There is no purse. There’s nothing.” |
15 Feb 2017, 13:40 (Ref:3712403) | #2334 | |
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Aye, the amount of professionals here would surprise people. Because professionals don't sit and make constant claims about things, hinting they have inside info. Professionals keep it professional.
Can we stop filling threads with "inside" knowledge with absolutely no information to back it up? We've been through all this before and it was ridiculous. |
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15 Feb 2017, 13:44 (Ref:3712404) | #2335 | |
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The nda's are strong up in here.....
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15 Feb 2017, 16:04 (Ref:3712420) | #2336 | ||
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That's the point I've made. Some of us don't rely on a paycheck from a motorsport venue. I have my friends, I share info I get when I feel like it. Am I an "insider"? No. Because that's a stupid elitist title given by those who need to feel important, or used by those who are jealous of something I guess. I spent years in the paddock of the ALMS, I still have many friends. If I ask them a question about something, sometimes I get an answer, other times I don't, other times I get clues and have to do the legwork.
I don't really care TBH. I'm not bound by any NDA's. If I hear something, I'll share it so long as it has some feet. If you, or anyone else doesn't want to believe me, well, that's on you... I sleep just fine at night. |
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15 Feb 2017, 18:02 (Ref:3712434) | #2339 | |
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This is getting childish.
There are a lot of posters here who really are "insiders." They tend to be the folks who never claim to have "inside information." And often, people who have no information, and Know they have no information, argue that since they don't know, no one else does. If Honda is in talks with Penske about a DPi, and has been for a while (I have been hearing about it for a while, but Not from "insiders"--and I am Not an "insider") then it is pretty far along, because Penske is Very professional and never spends his own money (with the very few times he sponsored one of his own IndyCars when he had an ace driver but couldn't get funds for a particular race, when IndyCar was pretty much lame.) If Honda and Penske are planning a DPi, they have been talking contracts, funding, property rights, promotion budgets, they have more lawyers on the case than mechanics on the NASCAR team. Roger Penske doesn't rush into stuff blindly. We might not know the details (though some of us, maybe with HPD connections, probably know more) but i can guaranteee you, Penske is very detail-oriented, so if there is a cr planned for 2018, a lot of the details have already been worked out. I'd imagine which branch of Honda will be nominally footing the bill and reaping the media rewards, has been decided already. That would be one of the first considerations, because for Honda, the whole project would be a media exercise, and which branch would get credit ... and which branch would have the cost written into its 2017 budget--would need to be decided in 2016. This isn't some guy trying to decide on Wednesday whether to put tires on the car he has up on blocks in his back yard and drive in the local Friday night demolition derby, folks. |
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HPD is gonna wheel out the ARX-04 as the biggest troll job in sports car history.
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As an Outside / Insider I am getting tired of all the CRAP
Any more of this CRAPOLA and I am going to call Joe Friday from DRAGNET Joe is definately an Insider and WHEN he gets the BUNKO squad involved we will finally find out the TRUTH |
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15 Feb 2017, 19:15 (Ref:3712443) | #2343 | ||
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Just so I'm clear, is the Alfa DPi that isn't happening is also going to badged as a Honda, correct?
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16 Feb 2017, 13:46 (Ref:3712600) | #2346 | |
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Are you going to Sebring again Bob?
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16 Feb 2017, 14:12 (Ref:3712605) | #2347 | ||
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This Bob will be going to bSebring
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17 Feb 2017, 15:16 (Ref:3712876) | #2350 | |
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I'm going to Sebring, I'm only 2 hours away.
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