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I doubt Alex Job would get involved in any project, without getting paid up front for any costs they might incur. I think the Evora is a safe bet to run the year.
As far as the Viper is concerned, I have been led to believe that it will make it's race debut after LM. When exactly, we don't know, but the car pictured upon introduction, is a finished race car. It is my opinion that they will run the VIR tests (the track is an hour from Riley's shops), and will debut at Lime Rock, if the tests go as planned. |
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But GTO looks cool. Plus, it actually means Gran Turismo Omologato.
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Newman/Haas ALMS program will happen after all?
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The Ferrari 250 GTO was launched in 1962. The IMSA GT Championship was founded in 1971.
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Franck Montagny to Level 5 at Laguna Seca according to DSC. I'd hoped he'd find work somewhere else but that's a good boost for the series.
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GTO- Gas, Tire, & Oil.
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Dear god, load of BoP adjustments for Laguna...
Porsche 911 GT3 RSR +0,4mm air restrictor (29,3mm / +0,7mm from base) +20kg (1220kg / -25kg from base) +100 height of the rear wing Front splitter extension & rear wing change Aston Martin Vantage -10kg (1185 / -60kg from base) Lotus Evora -75kg (1120kg / -125kg from base) |
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On a lighter note, there has not been a single adjustment between Dyson and Cytosport as of yet this season - already a huge improvement over last year!
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I don't see a problem with it. Adjust away, they probably wont win anyway (Lotus). At least it may let them be closer in terms of pace.
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You have no clue what I think. Don't take my comment out of context. I was speaking about the Lotus and saying I don't care what the latest BOP is, I'll ignore it and watch the race. That's what most the fanbase does. We can't dictate what they do, so why moan about it?
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Would you say the same if the balancing happened between Toyota and Audi?
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Like I said, we can't change anything. Better to get on with it and hope your team does something to better their performance. Be it from BOP or updates or whatever.
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So since we individuals cannot change things we must just surrender, accept it and act like nothing is wrong? Think that what before was a battle between manufacturers and now more of a battle of lobbying better BoP advantages through broken rulebook is the same thing? Pray for better adjustments for our favourite car and opposite for our competitors?
What kind of attitude is that? O.K that might be your view and I suppose you are entitled to it (although I think you wouldn't accept it so easily if Audi today received a random 100kg weight break for Le Mans because *at Spa the hybrid was not on pace of the regular diesels* or something stupid) |
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Seems to me people have been noticing, mentioning, and waiting for a change in the rules which so obviously favored diesels since ... the R10. And since the R10 the problem has been "addressed" and "fixed" annually--to the point that the gap is still three seconds per lap.
I know on RLM the accepted viewpoint is that Audi and Peugeot are/were faster because of huge development, not because of diesel rules breaks---which is why ACO has found it necessary to adjust the rules annually, of course. The question has been dissected at length in another thread. How does the series stay financially viable, present racing people (not just board anoraks) want to watch, sponsors and manufacturers want to pay for, among wildly disparate cars so that everyone gets an equal chance to win? Pretty obviously no team is going to show up if winning is out of the question, no matter how long the long shot (ask Jota.) I am not defending BoP. I am asking what folks suggest. Some have said "Nothing!!!" which others have suggested would be impractical---major factories aren't investing if they can't at least compete. others have suggested weight and dsiplacement limits, but that doesn't account for vehicle configuration (Murcielago vs. Aston Vantage anyone? Place your bets!) What I pray for at this point in unbiased balancing---done through analysis of observed performance, not lobbying ability. I don't see a bunch of "Run what you brung" classes succeeding because some companies build highly stylized decorative display knives and some build machine guns and bazookas. I am not trying to be "Right" I am hoping some sort of better idea will emerge. I haven't seen it yet. What we have isn't optimal---still, Ferrari, Porsche, Corvette, BMW, Lotus and Aston find it good enough. Anything which "improves" the racing and loses those factories isn't a great "improvement" IMO> |
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Wow, GTE becomes GT3.
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I am sorry I have contributed to this discussion because it is on the verge of getting ugly ... in part because of me.
NONE of us like the reliance on BOP, hte politics which warps the actual racing ... even though the politics has always been there (Ferrari canceling the '64 Monza round so race so that the Cobra Daytona wouldn't win the FIA World Championship?) I agree with Chianna And TF110--it isn't great, and instead of fighting over it, we need to either enjoy what we can or Seriously take action to make changes. Arguing on 10/10ths doesn't do squat. If someone has a plan to seriously lobby ACO, ALMS, FIA ... petition, open letter needing co-signers ... or if someone knows insiders ... (I don't.) Since I don't have a plan, i will just watch the races. Irf anyone has a real plan,. please post it here, because i think we would all prefer to see cars raced on mechanical merit, not lobbying support. In the meantime ... the SRO independent test pilot method seems closest to fair, I guess. |
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