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http://fourtitude.com/news/motorspor...oss-durheimer/
http://www.yallaf1.com/2012/07/26/vw...ie-up-rumours/ Another Article where it would appear VW is not interested in F1, from the horse's mouth (or one of them). Not sure about Porsche or VW itself, but Monisha Kaltenborn has denied it (http://www.crash.net/f1/news/182706/...e_hike.htmlnow) Peter Sauber has denied it, VW doesn't seem as interested as they once were. Quote:
Any F1 fan can tell you a new VW (VW itself, Audi, Porsche, Even Lamborghini) to F1 rumour pops out about every other week, perhaps the German media should instead be focused on Mercedes'future in Formula 1 or the Future of the German Grand Prix. |
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I'm guessing he means the allowance of F1 engines in the coming years.
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Hey, we could even add DRS and get Pirelli with Paul Hemroid as the sole supplier to make the racing 'more exciting.'
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21 Aug 2012, 15:36 (Ref:3122591) | #2383 | |
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LMPs do not have (at least not yet) such big problem following other cars aero-wise, which is the reason DRS was invented.
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What really helps is multiclass racing, traffic is one hell of an overtaking device. Same goes for Super GT in Japan - absolutely fantastic racing, but make it single class and it probably becomes as bad as DTM on a bad day. Also saw that when Grand Am had the DP-only borefests. |
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Well, also the fact that Le Mans is mostly large straights, where dirty air doesn't effect a cars ability to overtake as much, as overtaking through corners .
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15 Sep 2012, 19:04 (Ref:3136476) | #2386 | |
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Hi guys! I would have a question a little bit off topic: what was the idea behind the older regulations?
I know that LMP era have/had restrictors, boost pressure maximized, etc... I've tried to search about elder regulations, but i've found nothing. So could someone give me a short summary about them? What was the main idea behind them? I'm mainly interested in the engine regs... (I need it to a school project, so more to come... But not just questions!) |
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Thank you guys! You're very fast!
Of course i know mulsannecorner, and i knew that i can find lot of things there. I think i have not wrote my thoughts correctly, i'm not looking for the LMP era only. What i need is look like this: 1993-2014: LMP era, engine power limited by restrictors 1982-1993: Group C era: limited fuel usage 1975-1981: Gr.5, GTP, Sport categories, etc... limited fuel usage also, predecessors of group C (also no minimal production required from 1972) 1963-1974: Sport categories, and also prototypes, and GT-s. Sports needed 50 and later 25 road going examples, limited ccm. 1949-1962: sport and gt cars. All of them divided into classes by the engine's ccm. But could they do anything with the engine's? There was any reg about restrictors, or fuel usage? I guess no, but i don't know it exactly... Probably limited ccm. Or they were strictly road going engines? Or could they upgraded them a little? Pre war: cars divided into classes by engine ccm. I think at that time all cars were road-going cars, there were no limitations on engines, but also no modifications allowed. That's all i could get. But am i correct? I'm only sure in the LMP era, almost sure in Gr. C era, but everything before that is still a mess for me... |
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Yes, you were a bit confusing because you talked about "LMP" regulations.
Autosport nostalgia forum might also help: http://forums.autosport.com/index.php?showforum=10 |
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Okey, first look on ten-tenths historic part, and already found something! I knew that part, but they rather talk about one car, or one person in those topics, not general things. But probably, i could pose my question there...
Will search on autosport forum also. Thanks for your help! |
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If the ACO doesn't change the rules, we may get close to a 3:20 Le Mans pole time next year.
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As long as the average is 3:30 the ACO won't care...
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With 2013 cars being a development of 2012 cars, if the pole time is a 3:20 then the race pace will be somewhere in the 3:23s, which is still insane. But then again, maybe they'll let them have that before the rules change for 2014.
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In 2012, Le Mans,we have the follow figure´s: Slow GT Car (Corvete C6 ZR1) 286 km/h Fastest GT Car (Ferrari 458) 300.2 Km/h Slow LMP2 Car (Norma MP 2000) 296,9 km/h Fastest LMP2 Car (Oreca 03 Nissan) 320.4 Km/h Slow LMP1 Car (Pescarolo 03) 310,4 km/h Fastest LMP1 Car (Toyota TS 03) 335.2 Km/h I know the Norma is under developed but only 1 GT car was faster then all the LMP2 car´s (Ferrari AF corse - 300,2 km/h) and the LMP2 car´s are better handling in corners ( faster´s than GT car´s). This is not an issue like the old GT1 / LMP 2 "battle". One question? Do you enjoy the 2009 Le Mans Race? I loved it... |
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