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Old 27 May 2004, 20:17 (Ref:985427)   #241
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just picked up November 74 AS for the ZA event found 2 lola 280 entered i hope im attaching the snippet
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Old 27 May 2004, 20:26 (Ref:985436)   #242
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Attached but a bit small.

I've been through all the relevant WCM races in Autosport reports, and I guess Michael has aswell, but for others (if everyone else isn't asleep with this thread!), you may want to enlarge it.
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Old 27 May 2004, 20:39 (Ref:985448)   #243
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just picked up November 74 AS for the ZA event found 2 lola 280 entered i hope im attaching the snippet
trying again part 2
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Old 27 May 2004, 20:43 (Ref:985450)   #244
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Im trying to!!!!
ive added a car foto does this help anyone or shall i just go home have my tea and go to bed!!!
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Old 27 May 2004, 20:58 (Ref:985457)   #245
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Sorry!

Those are OK. We're limited by (I realise necessary) limitation on image sizes here on 10/10ths.

Don't go to bed yet, we need all the help we can get!
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Old 27 May 2004, 21:03 (Ref:985465)   #246
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"Those are OK. We're limited by (I realise necessary) limitation on image sizes here on 10/10ths"

yes their size restrictions caused me grief AFTER i found out how to copy paste the item i want from the larger Jpeg and then remember how to do it all again for the next foto!
Its now time for me to have
will of course scour my AS mags- i just found the 74 issues in another garage
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Old 29 May 2004, 20:28 (Ref:987558)   #247
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Originally posted by fausto
I cannot say this is the last livery seen, I'm sure about the fact that Capoferri cars sported Marilena and Pioneer sponsorship (very late 70s), probably Marilena money came with Renzo Zorzi (together with Pirelli tyres, Zorzi being a test driver for the Milanese company), who co-drove with Capoferri.

However I don't remember the "latest" T286 body kit, I'll go through the magazine to let you know, bye!
Hi Fausto

Is Marilena an Italian company? When I saw the Pioneer stickers I wondered if the car had at some time been owned by the collector Jacques Setton, who was the French Pioneer importer, IIRC, which is how he made all his money...

Anyhow, your explanation seems logical, would be nice to see some photos of the car in this livery...any pics/more info you find would be great!

Incidentally, does anybody know where/who Skidmore bought his car from? If anyone is going to a race meet where the car is present, perhaps they could ask him...
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Old 29 May 2004, 20:41 (Ref:987568)   #248
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Marilena is an Italian company (sportwear), it went on to sponsor Arrows in the early 80s (83?, do you remember the race-by-race deals?).

Pioneer money was from the Italian importer, who was actively involved in motosport, mainly formula cars, Riccardo Paletti was one of the recipient, when he drove for Mike Earle in F.2 and Osella in F.1.

I'll look for pictures as soon as I can....
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Old 7 Jun 2004, 21:18 (Ref:996669)   #249
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OK chaps I've finally got there. The page can be found at http://www.oldracingcars.com/projects/lolat280.htm.

It's a bit of a hack at the moment as I've done my best to put all the posts in the right place but I may have introduced errors.

I have found that it does show where we need to ask some more questions. Some of the links, such as between Lord and Zabrowski are quite tenuous (and some of the present-day cars clearly need to be investigated very closely!)

Against all the odds, I quite enjoyed doing it.

All suggestions for editing and re-writing are now very welcome.

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Old 7 Jun 2004, 21:35 (Ref:996678)   #250
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Blimey, have we really been through all that !

Allen, Thanks a lot for what I assume took a great deal of patience!

Re: present day, Like Lister-Jags, I would think there's more existing or now than there were in the period when they were raced.
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Old 8 Jun 2004, 03:25 (Ref:996844)   #251
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Well done Allen.
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Old 8 Jun 2004, 07:49 (Ref:996961)   #252
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yes well done allen how long did that take you??!!!
can i suggest that you buy yoursef a pint or 2 of beer to
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Old 8 Jun 2004, 09:58 (Ref:997062)   #253
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Yes, you're right that it did take a while but the whole thing makes a lot more sense to me than it did when I started. I think the Capoferri cars need a lot more work, as do those odd T292/T282/T284 entities.

Photographs would be a huge help. I can probably get permission to use the pictures from the WSC site and I have linked to 10 Tenths images where I'm confident the copyright belongs to the contributor. But I'm not comfortable using images where we know the copyright belongs to someone else. Jeremy - do you have pictures we can use of the Lord/Auger/Mallock car?

On the subject of more existing than were originally built, I think we have to watch what we say but it's pretty clear something is wrong. Can I suggest we identify the cars where the provenence is unproven and try to learn more about them. In fact, we don't seem to have a full provenance for any of the cars so we might be wrong about which ones are dodgy.

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Old 8 Jun 2004, 10:07 (Ref:997070)   #254
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Allen,

I seemed to skilfully avoid seeing the Lord/Auger/Mallock car at any races I went to! I think Nordic's photo is the only one I've seen that wasn't in either Autosport or MN.

Unfortunately, I agree that I don't think we've got a full provenance for any chassis.
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Old 8 Jun 2004, 10:15 (Ref:997075)   #255
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Auger family
are they the guys that also raced a 1300 bda skoda saloon gt car in the 80`s i think david drove it s2000 based?
malcolm jouhnstone u mentio is the the special saloon driver from notts derby area or another i believe there was a johnson and johnstone racing donngton races early 801s different formulas i recall
any ideas guys?
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