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Old 13 Feb 2004, 07:44 (Ref:872833)   #1
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The EJ14???

I was hoping (as I do every year) that this year's Jordan would have a bit more speed than last years car.

The car itself does not look to radical, despite what EJ says, although I know not to judge the look of it I still do. What kind of experience has this design team?

In testing so far it has not impressed, is it too early to judge, are they just finding their feet with the new car, or is it a big pile of ?

What engine are they using is it the full spec Jaguar engine?

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Old 13 Feb 2004, 08:01 (Ref:872847)   #2
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The Jordan is running the same Cosworth engine spec as Jaguar all season... seems Heidfeld's signing has something to do with that...

Given that Jaguar also looks shyte in testing at the moment, and the Cossie is common, is that perhaps the cause of the issues with both teams?
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Old 13 Feb 2004, 09:24 (Ref:872936)   #3
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... and their naff chassis, I think. Both teams are in total disarray - that can't help either.
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Old 13 Feb 2004, 11:20 (Ref:873050)   #4
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Cossie is common aye? ... on the other hand, Minardi are doing well.......

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Old 13 Feb 2004, 11:30 (Ref:873064)   #5
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Jaguar was running well at yesterday's Jerez test.
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Old 13 Feb 2004, 11:38 (Ref:873076)   #6
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Old 13 Feb 2004, 11:51 (Ref:873096)   #7
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I think it is probably more down to chassis than the engine. Even if the Cossies are giving up 20-30 horsepower, it still wouldn't have as much of an effect on the cars than poor aerodynamics and grip.
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Old 15 Feb 2004, 03:12 (Ref:874523)   #8
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Shiny is right. Its not the engine that is making them slow. Besides the Cosworth is usually one of the best engines on the grid.
In order to give up 2 or 3secs per lap, and engine would have to be down 200-300hp. That definitely isn't the case
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That would put the Minardi into negative wouldnt it?
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Old 15 Feb 2004, 06:25 (Ref:874579)   #10
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My point is all the cars at the back have Ford badges somewhere - not good publicity.
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maybe if ford wanted good publicity they could make there stickers fall off the Jordan, Minardi and Jag when they get lapped. Like a flick swip. Activate Magna-sticket now!... and the ford sticker majicly gets stuck on the Ferrari of Michael thats lapping the Minardi after 3 laps.. sounds like the only way will see a ford sticker on a car in the lead..
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Old 15 Feb 2004, 07:51 (Ref:874613)   #12
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As I posted on another thread Jordan started the week 5 seconds off and ended up only 2.5 seconds off the pace. They may be finding their feet also note that the last day was described as a brigstone tyre test where consistancy and benchmarking is the objective not absolute speed.

Having said that I still get the impresion its going to be a difficult year.
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I thnk the end is nigh for Jordan
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Old 15 Feb 2004, 10:29 (Ref:874708)   #14
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Jordan's reliability in testing so far seems to have been really impressive, and their improvement in time has been promising. Now that the driver line-up is sorted, adn that they know the engine gives an even comparison with Jaguar, I honestly think they'll do okay.

Finishing close to Jaguar might be optimistic, but I think any wet races will put Jordan at a real advantage, and if tehy can make use of those, good resutls will come. Other races with high atrition are their other chance of points.
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Old 15 Feb 2004, 14:25 (Ref:874882)   #15
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Engine is apparantly the Jaguar block, but I believe what many press have said, in that they may be told to cap their revvs a little lower. If not forced by a slightly differant pneumatic valve material...
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