View Poll Results: Who will beat their team mate in 2018?
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Mercedes: Lewis Hamilton
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29 |
96.67% |
Mercedes: Valtteri Bottas
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1 |
3.33% |
Ferrari: Sebastian Vettel
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29 |
96.67% |
Ferrari: Kimi Raikkonen
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3.33% |
Red Bull: Daniel Ricciardo
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8 |
26.67% |
Red Bull: Max Verstappen
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22 |
73.33% |
Force India: Sergio Perez
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7 |
23.33% |
Force India: Esteban Ocon
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23 |
76.67% |
Williams: Lance Stroll
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14 |
46.67% |
Williams: Sergey Sirotkin
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16 |
53.33% |
Renault: Nico Hulkenberg
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18 |
60.00% |
Renault: Carlos Sainz Jnr
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12 |
40.00% |
Toro Rosso: Pierre Gasly
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17 |
56.67% |
Toro Rosso: Brendon Hartley
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13 |
43.33% |
Haas: Romain Grosjean
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22 |
73.33% |
Haas: Kevin Magnussen
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8 |
26.67% |
McLaren: Fernando Alonso
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28 |
93.33% |
McLaren: Stoffel Vandoorne
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2 |
6.67% |
Sauber: Marcus Ericsson
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7 |
23.33% |
Sauber: Charles Leclerc
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23 |
76.67% |
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12 Apr 2018, 06:46 (Ref:3814960)
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It has been what.. almost 50 GP's since he scored a point? The 2015 Italian GP was his last venture into the points if I'm not mistaken. Not good enough. In my opinion.

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Ericsson would've scored in Baku last year if it hadn't been for the (as it turns out, completely unnecessary) team order to move over. The haters always seem to conveniently forget that though.
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12 Apr 2018, 08:47 (Ref:3814964)
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Originally Posted by rustyfan
Ericsson would've scored in Baku last year if it hadn't been for the (as it turns out, completely unnecessary) team order to move over. The haters always seem to conveniently forget that though.
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Wehrlein was much faster than Ericsson at the time of the switch, and with Vandoorne closing down on them there was a chance he would pass both Saubers. Ericsson is there to do a job for the team and the best chance of a point was with the faster car, ie Wehrlein.
Wehrlein was able to pull a couple of seconds clear of Ericsson, who crossed the line 0.2 ahead of Vandoorne who was half a second / lap faster. Marcus did what he is paid for, helped the team score a point.
That either of the Sauber's was in a points position was more due to others attrition than pace.
Unfortunately for Marcus, he is more remembered for incidents like when he (some said deliberately) drove into teamate Nasr at Monaco in 2016, resulting in a team DNF.
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12 Apr 2018, 09:07 (Ref:3814967)
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Well you're only as good as your last performance?
In which case Marcus might be pretty good.
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12 Apr 2018, 09:34 (Ref:3814972)
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Wehrlein was much faster than Ericsson at the time of the switch, and with Vandoorne closing down on them there was a chance he would pass both Saubers. Ericsson is there to do a job for the team and the best chance of a point was with the faster car, ie Wehrlein.
Wehrlein was able to pull a couple of seconds clear of Ericsson, who crossed the line 0.2 ahead of Vandoorne who was half a second / lap faster. Marcus did what he is paid for, helped the team score a point.
That either of the Sauber's was in a points position was more due to others attrition than pace.
Unfortunately for Marcus, he is more remembered for incidents like when he (some said deliberately) drove into teamate Nasr at Monaco in 2016, resulting in a team DNF.
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C'mon now E.B. Don't go shattering the dreams of the Ericsson fan girls. They are on a high at the moment. So much so you'd think Jesus has returned... as with comments such as "I’ve always believed in Marcus" 
49 races in between scoring a single point and apparently the Messiah has returned the way the fan girls are carrying on!
Ericsson has at least lasted longer than Jorda did in F1 as a "driver". So comparing him to Jorda is unfair I must agree. He looks no where near as good in shorts as Jorda does though!
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12 Apr 2018, 09:44 (Ref:3814975)
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Here's the proof.
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12 Apr 2018, 10:40 (Ref:3814988)
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There’s fans, and then there are people who don’t blindly have unfounded hate for drivers and are trying to ackowledge a good result by having a proper adult discussion. (A discussion that also doesn’t involve using ‘girl’ as a negative)
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12 Apr 2018, 11:41 (Ref:3814995)
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C'mon now E.B. Don't go shattering the dreams of the Ericsson fan girls. They are on a high at the moment. So much so you'd think Jesus has returned... as with comments such as "I’ve always believed in Marcus" 
49 races in between scoring a single point and apparently the Messiah has returned the way the fan girls are carrying on!
Ericsson has at least lasted longer than Jorda did in F1 as a "driver". So comparing him to Jorda is unfair I must agree. He looks no where near as good in shorts as Jorda does though! 
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Is Ericsson not allowed to have fans who are female?
I would imagine any driver would like fan girls, fan boys, fan men and fan women. Could we just refer to them as fans?
I also think Ericsson looks quite good in shorts - in fact to many he looks better than Jorda!
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12 Apr 2018, 14:15 (Ref:3815020)
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Unfortunately for Marcus, he is more remembered for incidents like when he (some said deliberately) drove into teamate Nasr at Monaco in 2016, resulting in a team DNF.
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Well, yeah - Nasr had been given the order to move over as Ericsson was faster, but didn't. Ericsson finally ran out of patience and made an ill-advised attempt to pass.
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12 Apr 2018, 18:21 (Ref:3815055)
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Ericsson had a good race in Bahrain, and brought home some points. Good for him. Is he Formula 1 material when you look at people like Antonio Giovinazzi, Lando Norris, George Russell, Pascal Wehrlein, Robert Wickens and Jack Aitken? Very debatable. For me, he’s very close to being a bed-blocker.
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13 Apr 2018, 00:20 (Ref:3815117)
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Ericsson had a good race in Bahrain, and brought home some points. Good for him. Is he Formula 1 material when you look at people like Antonio Giovinazzi, Lando Norris, George Russell, Pascal Wehrlein, Robert Wickens and Jack Aitken? Very debatable. For me, he’s very close to being a bed-blocker.
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In a perfect world all these guys get their shot at F1.
Lando and George will be in F1 soon enough. Wehrlein we all know was unlucky that Williams needed cash over talent. Not that being in a Williams this year seems much better than being in last year's Sauber!
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13 Apr 2018, 09:05 (Ref:3815159)
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Not Ericsson's fault that there aren't enough seats in F1 to go around for talented youngsters
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13 Apr 2018, 10:34 (Ref:3815169)
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Don’t know how Ericsson got into the top ten
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Not Ericsson's fault that there aren't enough seats in F1 to go around for talented youngsters
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So confusing. At first not sure how Ericsson even got into the top ten, to then Ericsson being a talented driver deserving of a seat in F1??
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13 Apr 2018, 11:59 (Ref:3815182)
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So confusing. At first not sure how Ericsson even got into the top ten, to then Ericsson being a talented driver deserving of a seat in F1??
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Quite simple really:
Not sure how only 6 laps earns a position in the ranking - so querying the scoring criteria for the feature.
Overall, feels that Ericsson is one the many talented drivers who could be in F1 if there were more seats available.
IIRC, you were the one who originally made a comment about a single table, based on the results of a single race, is indicative of a driver's overall career performance - whereas everyone else saw the table for what it is - a Liberty feature to promote interest in the sport. I'm sure all of the team managers aren't deciding their 2019 driver line-ups based on the Power Rankings!!
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13 Apr 2018, 19:01 (Ref:3815253)
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It's not confusing at all, you're just trying to cause arguments. Ericsson didn't deserve a top 10 in Australia because he barely completed enough of the race to be granted such an award. However, that doesn't mean he's suddenly not good enough to be in F1.
 <- the smilie that goes on the end of a post that you know is going to cause problems.
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14 Apr 2018, 00:26 (Ref:3815299)
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Don't try my commenting style. You can't pull it off.
Oh, almost forgot, for akrapovic:
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