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Old 14 Jun 2018, 13:20 (Ref:3829281)   #1
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Useless FIA Survey

Today I got an email from the MSA inviting me to take part in an FIA survey; however, my effort to inform the FIA of my opinions fell at the first hurdle.


Reading the possible replies to question 1 I decided that none of the available answers was particularly relevant to me, so I selected "none of the above" & clicked on "next". On the next page I got a message telling me that there was an error in my answer to the first question & asking me to go back & check my answer. If you're giving a number of choices shouldn't they all be valid responses? Schoolboy error!
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Old 14 Jun 2018, 13:49 (Ref:3829291)   #2
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Today I got an email from the MSA inviting me to take part in an FIA survey; however, my effort to inform the FIA of my opinions fell at the first hurdle.


Reading the possible replies to question 1 I decided that none of the available answers was particularly relevant to me, so I selected "none of the above" & clicked on "next". On the next page I got a message telling me that there was an error in my answer to the first question & asking me to go back & check my answer. If you're giving a number of choices shouldn't they all be valid responses? Schoolboy error!
Phew, glad it wasn't just me then.

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Old 14 Jun 2018, 13:56 (Ref:3829294)   #3
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Glad we all think the same, I put 'none of the above' and got the same response, it made me think that it was composed by a 16 year old as part of an 'O' level, & I guess they got an 'E'.
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Old 14 Jun 2018, 14:34 (Ref:3829297)   #4
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I've hit an immediate showstopper with this: the first question does not have a "most important aspect" that covers my involvement in marshalling, and does not allow me to choose no answer nor "none of the above" for both.

This is unfortunate as the only way to proceed is to choose an answer which does not apply; that will bias the responses the FIA receive massively and in my opinion renders the survey meaningless.

I do hope you could pass that on to whoever designed the survey. Until such time as that gets changed, I don't believe the outcome will help any ASN or the FIA - unless they've prejudged areas they want to address.
There's a reason why questionnaire design is taught at postgraduate degree level in many disciplines - it's bloody hard.
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Old 14 Jun 2018, 18:42 (Ref:3829415)   #5
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FIA Marshals Survey

Hm, yes I agree. It appears that the questions are 'slightly' loaded in favour of obtaining very specific answers from us marshals. Its not all about big international events, its about turning up for clubbies, sprints, autotests etc. The FIA tend to forget that all marshals start this way and that some of us are happy doing this. Its not always about halo events it should be about grass roots motorsport making sure we are all well trained and equipped to cope with any situation.
There, my rant is over!
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Haven't started it yet. Do you mean to say there's nowhere to answer 'I mostly avoid FIA meetings, mainly because they're run by the FIA'?
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Me too

I had the same feelings/problems about this. I emailed Media @ Thrush HQ (who sent it out) but no reply. ;-)

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I had the same feelings/problems about this. I emailed Media @ Thrush HQ (who sent it out) but no reply. ;-)
Likewise, although I must say I wasn't expecting one.
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So let the MSA know. Perhaps they may have answers ....... or maybe not.
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So let the MSA know. Perhaps they may have answers ....... or maybe not.
Both Jim and I did so, but got no reply.
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