Round 6: The 103rd Indianapolis 500, 14th-26th May. - Page 14

**Adam43** · 26 May 2019, 20:07 (Ref:3906171)

Certainly did.

fieldodreams79 · 26 May 2019, 20:11 (Ref:3906173)

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Originally Posted by Akrapovic

Well that was bloody good fun, and a good race to run after a good Monaco too.

And the forum was fun too.

Yeah! There's still one more to go, if your up for 600 miles of the National Stock Car Auto Racing series in North Cackalacky

**skycafe** · 26 May 2019, 20:12 (Ref:3906174)

Cool! Amazing race, so happy someone had pull to make the weather cooperate.

**Adam43** · 26 May 2019, 20:13 (Ref:3906175)

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Originally Posted by fieldodreams79

Yeah! There's still one more to go, if your up for 600 miles of the National Stock Car Auto Racing series in North Cackalacky

Hell yes!

Akrapovic · 26 May 2019, 20:13 (Ref:3906176)

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Yeah! There's still one more to go, if your up for 600 miles of the National Stock Car Auto Racing series in North Cackalacky

Negative, I'm up for work 7 hours from now

Enjoy the 600!

fieldodreams79 · 26 May 2019, 20:14 (Ref:3906179)

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Originally Posted by Akrapovic

Negative, I'm up for work 7 hours from now

Enjoy the 600!

Well, alrighty then!

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Originally Posted by Adam43

Hell yes!

Well alrighty then!

gert · 26 May 2019, 20:16 (Ref:3906180)

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Originally Posted by fieldodreams79

Yeah! There's still one more to go, if your up for 600 miles of the National Stock Car Auto Racing series in North Cackalacky

Me neither. NASCAR is not really my thing.
But I hope it's a good race for those who love it.

fieldodreams79 · 26 May 2019, 20:19 (Ref:3906181)

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Me neither. NASCAR is not really my thing.

But I hope it's a good race for those who love it.

I used too! I'm going to follow just for sake of extending the reason to drink alcohol, not that I really need one...

**joeb** · 27 May 2019, 01:49 (Ref:3906216)

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I used too! I'm going to follow just for sake of extending the reason to drink alcohol, not that I really need one...

My wife is sitting outside talking on the phone right now. I'm tempted to lock the doors and turn off the lights to drink bourbon in peace. Oops did I type that?

I was only a couple hours late finishing the last 40 laps on dvr. I enjoyed it, glad to see Pag win, but was pulling for Carpenter. He just faded on the final restart. Ferrucci surprised me by finishing 7, and Daly had a decent run at 10th.

fieldodreams79 · 27 May 2019, 02:10 (Ref:3906221)

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Originally Posted by joeb

My wife is sitting outside talking on the phone right now. I'm tempted to lock the doors and turn off the lights to drink bourbon in peace. Oops did I type that?

I was only a couple hours late finishing the last 40 laps on dvr. I enjoyed it, glad to see Pag win, but was pulling for Carpenter. He just faded on the final restart. Ferrucci surprised me by finishing 7, and Daly had a decent run at 10th.

Just crank it up with Fox.

Likewise with Ed. He's a story every May, like it or not.

mstets · 27 May 2019, 05:20 (Ref:3906245)

The Seb/Rahal incident took out 3 drivers who I always pull for, and 2 others that deserved much better finishes than they got. Blame is squarely on Seb, and I am always in his corner as far as one who I want to see do well. Rahal was well up on the inside when Seb turned down, spotter should have been on top of the situation. I'm assuming that Seb's spotter was saying "inside, inside" and that Seb reacted by trying to squeeze Rahal out of the line. I haven't read any statements by Seb yet. Perhaps he didn't get good input from his spotter. I'm sure Rahal assumed that Seb knew he was inside, and would either hold his line on the outsiide (as many other drivers did in similar situations, often staying ahead of the inside car), or fall back.

mstets · 27 May 2019, 05:28 (Ref:3906246)

Great drives by Simon, Rossi, Sato, Newgarden, and a nice recovery by Power. Ferrucci did a great job, will be a well deserving ROTY.

dwh43scale · 27 May 2019, 18:46 (Ref:3906373)

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That flyover was badass, however! A-10, F-18 and 2 WWII Fighters. BADEFFINGASS

Any one know if the silver / yellow Mustang in the flypast was Ferocious Frankie. Lived in the UK for many years and a regular flyer at Goodwood Revival but sold to Turkey a couple of years back. Only got a quick glimpse on the tv

**joeb** · 28 May 2019, 01:55 (Ref:3906430)

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Originally Posted by mstets

The Seb/Rahal incident took out 3 drivers who I always pull for, and 2 others that deserved much better finishes than they got. Blame is squarely on Seb, and I am always in his corner as far as one who I want to see do well. Rahal was well up on the inside when Seb turned down, spotter should have been on top of the situation. I'm assuming that Seb's spotter was saying "inside, inside" and that Seb reacted by trying to squeeze Rahal out of the line. I haven't read any statements by Seb yet. Perhaps he didn't get good input from his spotter. I'm sure Rahal assumed that Seb knew he was inside, and would either hold his line on the outsiide (as many other drivers did in similar situations, often staying ahead of the inside car), or fall back.

In an interview during the race, Seb said he didn't know Rahal was up that far beside him. Didn't exactly apologize, but did seem to understand it was his error. I like both Seb and Graham, but I think Graham made some pretty aggressive comments in what was really more or less a racing incident. Seb thought he could cover the spot and Graham would backout, he was wrong and Graham then accused him of trying to kill him.

broadrun96 · 28 May 2019, 02:41 (Ref:3906437)

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Originally Posted by joeb

In an interview during the race, Seb said he didn't know Rahal was up that far beside him. Didn't exactly apologize, but did seem to understand it was his error. I like both Seb and Graham, but I think Graham made some pretty aggressive comments in what was really more or less a racing incident. Seb thought he could cover the spot and Graham would backout, he was wrong and Graham then accused him of trying to kill him.

Yeah, I'm ok with Graham being upset but he definitely went too far. It felt like Seb knew it was a risky play and it didn't go how he thought it would. But there was no I'm going to get him mentality to the move. It was going to work or end both their races, turns out to be a wreck not a position saving block but that's how it goes sometimes. And it's not like Seb hasn't had his share of big wrecks at Indy so I think he gets the risk young Rahal.

mstets · 28 May 2019, 05:18 (Ref:3906443)

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Originally Posted by joeb

In an interview during the race, Seb said he didn't know Rahal was up that far beside him. Didn't exactly apologize, but did seem to understand it was his error. I like both Seb and Graham, but I think Graham made some pretty aggressive comments in what was really more or less a racing incident. Seb thought he could cover the spot and Graham would backout, he was wrong and Graham then accused him of trying to kill him.

They have spotters. I can't imagine that Seb's spotter wasn't saying "inside, inside" before the initial contact. It looked to me that Seb moved down in reaction hoping that Rahal would back out. After the first time that they touched wheels, Seb should have either stayed up in the 2nd groove and given Graham room or backed off and let him go by. Several cars were able to hold the outside line all through the corner (in some instances two corners) when another car was underneath, and often maintained their position. I'd have been happy if either driver had finished in front of the other, but am very disappointed that neither of them finished.

billy bleach · 28 May 2019, 18:00 (Ref:3906560)

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Originally Posted by mstets

They have spotters. I can't imagine that Seb's spotter wasn't saying "inside, inside" before the initial contact. It looked to me that Seb moved down in reaction hoping that Rahal would back out. After the first time that they touched wheels, Seb should have either stayed up in the 2nd groove and given Graham room or backed off and let him go by. Several cars were able to hold the outside line all through the corner (in some instances two corners) when another car was underneath, and often maintained their position. I'd have been happy if either driver had finished in front of the other, but am very disappointed that neither of them finished.

Is this the same Bourdais that fires a Private LMP1 car out of a certain P4 in a fit of temper tantrum at Le Mans? From that day I have always had.him down as dirty

jimclark · 28 May 2019, 18:11 (Ref:3906562)

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Is this the same Bourdais that fires a Private LMP1 car out of a certain P4 in a fit of temper tantrum at Le Mans? From that day I have always had.him down as dirty

What year and what were they driving?

**skycafe** · 28 May 2019, 18:15 (Ref:3906563)

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Originally Posted by dwh43scale

Any one know if the silver / yellow Mustang in the flypast was Ferocious Frankie. Lived in the UK for many years and a regular flyer at Goodwood Revival but sold to Turkey a couple of years back. Only got a quick glimpse on the tv

The P40 & P51 were from the Commerative Air Force. You can reach them to inquire about the specific plane. They have a few based on their website.

gert · 28 May 2019, 19:00 (Ref:3906575)

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Originally Posted by billy bleach

Is this the same Bourdais that fires a Private LMP1 car out of a certain P4 in a fit of temper tantrum at Le Mans? From that day I have always had.him down as dirty

What year and what were they driving?

I'm quite sure he is talking about Bourdais crashing into the Rollcentre car.
That Rollcentre car was a Dallara IIRC, Bourdais must have been driving either a Pescarolo or a Peugeot.

I'd guess 2003 - 2004 - 2005 ?

S griffin · 28 May 2019, 19:03 (Ref:3906576)

Bourdais probably finished with sportscars. I know he drove he Peugeot while still in F1.

Maybe in the late 00s it happened. He’s not a bad driver, but does get involved in a few too many incidents

jimclark · 28 May 2019, 19:33 (Ref:3906591)

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Originally Posted by gert

I'm quite sure he is talking about Bourdais crashing into the Rollcentre car.
That Rollcentre car was a Dallara IIRC, Bourdais must have been driving either a Pescarolo or a Peugeot.

I'd guess 2003 - 2004 - 2005 ?

I don't remember him doing so. Maybe I missed it as I've been napping more during the 24 these days than in the past. If it were those years, it wouldn't be the 908 as that appeared in 6,7, or 8, no? Some research is in order as I recollect another Bourdais at Le Mans.....it couldn't possibly be him?

**skycafe** · 28 May 2019, 19:35 (Ref:3906592)

Well, Bourdais is in the Ford GT squad at LeMans next month...

I look at what happened late in the Indy 500 as a racing crash. It was for position late in the race. I might view it differently if it occured early in the race.

jimclark · 28 May 2019, 19:54 (Ref:3906594)

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Originally Posted by S griffin

Bourdais probably finished with sportscars. I know he drove he Peugeot while still in F1.

Maybe in the late 00s it happened. He’s not a bad driver, but does get involved in a few too many incidents

I see he drove for Peugeot in 2007 (2nd); '8 (not at LM); '9 (2nd); '10 (DNF, suspension), '11 (2nd); and in '12; he drove a Dome for Pescarolo.

Could it have been 2010...did it put him out too with the suspension failure?
It retired early, 38 laps. Is that when the contact occured?
I really just have no recollection, dang it.

I'm so ashamed.....

jimclark · 28 May 2019, 20:00 (Ref:3906596)

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Originally Posted by skycafe

Well, Bourdais is in the Ford GT squad at LeMans next month...

I look at what happened late in the Indy 500 as a racing crash. It was for position late in the race. I might view it differently if it occured early in the race.

I agree, somewhat. I still think I'd lean towards just a racing incident. They both could have avoided it. Rather ambitious by Rahal, and, Bourdais coulda' left some room. Anyhow, it's in the past, and whatever....."that's racin"....."

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