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ELVA MK 2 / 3 100/49 Bill Hinshaw's comments
From Bill Hinshaw
First, I think the chassis # 100/49 was on a serial plate mounted to the firewall. However, I once looked into the Elva Owners' website and it was shown as having been once mine but listed as a Mk2. According to Rod Carveth (deceased some 10 years now but once the Elva distributor for this area and a friend of Carl Haas in Chicago, the U.S. importer) the factory did not receive new Mk3 ID plates in time to put them on the cars and so used surplus Mk 2 plates instead with the new Mk3 numbers stamped in. The first owner, I believe, was a San Francisco social worker named Dan Abbott, who ran the car very unsuccessfully in 1960. Not the car's fault, either, but Dan did his best to stay out of the way, at least. He sold it to Bob Potter, an SCCA driver and used car trader in Oakland. I found it sitting on a trailer at the back of Bob's lot and traded a salvaged Morgan +4 for it. My first run with it was on Sunday at the Stockton event in early '61, my Porsche entry having expired in the Ladies' Race on Saturday. I had done no prep work at all on the Elva and subsequently found that it overheated quickly and so I retired it. It wasn't until later in "61 that I got a chance to work on the engine, and found on removal of the cyl. head that two of the liners had sunk into the block. Since I had already entered the car for a race at Cotati I took a shortcut "Joe McGee" fix and cut shims from old coffee can lids and stuck them to the tops of the sunken liners with aluminum spray paint and then laid a head gasket on top of that. Amazingly the car seemed to run quite well as we did tests up & down the alley behind Rod Carveth's shop. Saturday at Cotati came and the car proved a reasonable contender to season's points-leader John Miller in his Lotus Eleven but the clutch was failing fast. That night a shop owner in Santa Rosa made his place available and a group of friends & I installed a new clutch - an MGTD or A, I think - and on Sunday we had a new winner. Miller and I were both equally amazed. Shortly thereafter the Elva Mk6 was announced and I ordered one through Carveth. By December the Mk3 was sold to a guy from Salt Lake City. I should have kept it. Bill Hinshaw |
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In 1962 Bish Hines competed in the Glen Classic; Grand National race in Ontario; Giants Despair Hill Climb at Wilkes Barre, Pa; and Mid-Ohio Race at Mansfield; Queen Catharine Cup at Watkins Glen.
Competition Press, Vol 10-No.7 April 13, 1963: ELVA Mk III, red, limited use, exceptionally clean and original, one race on Stage 3 Cli- max, details, photos available, delivery ar- ranged, Realistically priced, $2200 firm, Bish Hines Jr., 550 S. Transit St., Lockport, N.Y. (716) HF 4-7403 Last edited by Rupertlt1; 23 Dec 2014 at 17:01. Reason: Added info. |
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ELVA GM 1150-cc Coventry Climax, just rebuilt, stage 4 and polished. 4 firsts, 5 tries, '62 trailer and spares. $2600 or offer. Inquiries invited. Sid Horman, 1245 Lake St., Salt Lake 5, Utah. IN 7-4082. |
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Competition Press, Vol 10-No.6 March 30, 1963. |
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Elva MK IV/V upright needed
I own MK IV #100-86 and during one of the sessions at the recent Elva reunion in New Jersey the lower strut/arm off of the left rear upright casting sheared at the hub. I would appreciate hearing from anyone who might have a lead on a replacement part.
I have seen photos of the rear suspension of a MK V and it looks like Elva saw fit to reinforce this piece in steel. I wonder if anyone knows or has any thoughts on whether the hub carrier/upright from a MK V might fit a MK IV. If so it would seem that this would be a worthy upgrade. Thanks in advance--Michael Oritt michael.oritt (at) gmail.com |
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Elva Mk 3, 4 and 5
What has happened to this forum?
Why have there not been any posts in several years? (Yes, I know I have not contributed any but that is not my point....) |
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I'm adding one here - even though I don't have a Mk3-5. We just bought a Mk6 and are trying to track its history. The factory notes say that the first purchaser was "HOUNTINGLY." We suspect this is not a real name. We understand these names were handwritten by someone after hearing the names orally. One current thought is that this was really something like "Hun-Ting Lee." We also note that an early Mk6 (60/06) was sold to a "LEE." So perhaps this is the same person. We're also told that these names could be the actual buyer, or a shop that is getting the car for the buyer, or an employee at the shop.
As an aside, another possibility we explored was "Hunton Ganley" for "Hountingly" the racer from New Zealand, who in 1962 wrecked his Lotus 11, needing a new car, and moved to the UK - so a possibility. However, I actually spoke with Hunton, and it wasn't him. The reason I'm posting here is that I'm wondering if there might be a "Lee" who purchased an earlier Elva, and I might be able to get more information on him. I am ordering the book. But my family is always struggling to find a birthday present for me. So they are insisting that they get this for me, but wait until my birthday. So I can't search the race results to see if any show a "Lee" or "Hong-Ting Lee" or something similar. I have searched racingsportscars.com with no luck. The Watkins Glen archives did not have anything either. Also, one other question. So many of these cars were sold out of Haas in Chicago. Are there any former Haas employees still around? I'd love to ask them if they might remember Hountingly or Lee at their shop. |
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It's a bit of a stretch but Lee Chapman Racing in, I believe, Connecticut has been involved with Elvas and other British SR's for years. May want to check with him as if he is not the right Lee he may nevertheless know something about the car.
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Thanks! I'm assuming that the Lee has no connection.
But, I appreciate the reference. I've emailed them about other questions I have on tracking down a different Mk6. |
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You might give Haas a call. Perhaps they can put you on to someone who worked there at the time.
https://www.haasauto.com/contact_us/ |
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Did you ever discover anything of the early history of 100/94? The Fergusson/Baird 1960 Nürburgring 1000km entry was actually a Courier, not a MkV sport racer. Cheers, Rod |
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Hi Doug,
Sorry for slow reply. Did you happen to have a name for the person you sold the car to? I believe it was later purchased after being found rotting away in a yard in Mendota. Cheers, Rod |
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But we did find the full history now on our car. The original owner was Mr. Pat Hovenden, who raced it in the UK, and then Brian Hegbourne (whose famous F2 racer brother Tony drove the car too), then to Canada and the US for a great and long racing history - and lots of pictures. I've spoken with all the prior owners back to the one who bought it from the first Canadian owner, and have been able to get lots of papers, pictures and info on the car. I have even spoken to Pat's business partner at the time of the Elva, and separately to his racing partner at the time (a noted Lotus historian actually), who both provided great information about the car. It has been a great journey. |
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Elva MK IV/86
I may or may not have posted this previously but in any case I am the current owner of ELVA MKIV/86L, having purchased it from Tom Grudovich in approximately 2012. It was powered by an FWE when I bought it and now has an FWB (1460). I race it frequently in eastern-US vintage events with good results.
From what I know the "L" in the serial number refers to "Long" and reportedly there are four additional inches between the firewalls than in non-L cars. The cockpit is certainly roomy but I merely seek verification of this fact (if it is a fact). I also wish to announce that I have a full set of high-quality MK IV body molds and if any MK IV owner needs replacement body parts please make contact at: michael.oritt@gmail.com. They are NOT available for the building up of a "new" car--only for repairing an existing and original IV. Best--Michael Oritt |
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Somehow or other the Lady Godiva medallion on the valve cover of my FWB became separated from its parent. I have no hope of recovering it and wonder if anyone can point me toward obtaining a replacement. Suitable reward available....
Pease reply to my email below. Best--Michael Oritt michael.oritt@gmail.com |
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100-86L history
A while back I was able to make contact with my car's fourth owner, who verified some of what I knew and supplied some new info, and I have pieced together most of my car's history. According to online records of races in the Washington DC/MD/VA area I found the following chain of ownership:
1959-1963: Don Knight (associated with Continental Motors of Washington DC 1964-1968: Dave Roethel 1966-1969: Tom Shaffer (dates overlap unexplainable--perhaps co-driven) 1969-1970: Phillip Snyder 1971 to approximately 1999: unaccounted for 2000 to 2003: Tom Clifford and Tom Ellsworth (old logbooks have disappeared) 2004 to 2009: Tom Grudovich 2009 to present: Me The car was repowered at some point from an FWA to an FWE and after a couple of years' ownership I put in a 1460 FWB. |
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Further to posts #25, #29 and #31, some new information recently came to light suggesting that the finder and restorer of my Elva-Climax MkIV may have got themselves a bit confused.
To explain, sometime in the late 1980s Charles Crail discovered my car, chassis 100/74, as a classic barn find in rural California. He already owned the remains of a second Elva MkIV (100/77L) and in 1990 did a deal with another Californian car restorer - Franklin “Rudy” Rudolph - trading both cars in exchange for an Elva Formula Junior. Rudy then went on to restore the more complete of the two cars - chassis 100/74 - and sold the scant remains of 100/77L to a well-known Elva collector. Crail told Rudy that the previous owner said that chassis 100/74, had been raced by William T. “Bunny” Ribbs in the 1962 race season and, indeed, period photos exist showing Ribbs driving a MkIV at various tracks in California during that time. However, some new information obtained recently indicates that Bunny’s car was almost certainly chassis number 100/77L and not 100/74. This begs the question as to the period race history of 100/74, a very early chassis number in the run of Mark IVs, and requires a bit more detective work. That work is ongoing but, with a maximum of around 30 Elva Mk IVs having been built, by eliminating known cars, closely examining period race results and taking account of geography, the prime candidates are the cars raced in 1958/1959 by: John D. Peters (North Hollywood, CA) - raced initially in UK (1958/59) and then California (1959) - covered in the János Wimpffen book A.S ‘Curley’ Brayer (Phoenix, AZ) - Arizona Elva dealer - 1959 Jerome hillclimb and SCCA El Paso, Del Mar, Santa Barbara William A. Parham Jr. (Fort Worth, TX) - ran at December 1959 Nassau races and SCCA Galveston (1960) - also raced a Courier Any information, additive or corrective, would be warmly appreciated. |
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