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Old 23 Jun 2018, 21:26 (Ref:3832753)   #16
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It's amazing to see how fortunes change - Sebastien Loeb Racing were about to get a 1-2, instead they have a big cheque to pay for 2 new cars. Muller, who screwed the start saved the car and won the race. Don't remember I've seen anything like that in motorsport.

Such a big shame for the crash.

WTCR really needs to re-think the calendar. So far they visited 5 venues, NONE of which really offer overtaking opportunities even for TCR cars.
4 street circuits of 10 is way too much
2 venues in a 10 round calendar is also way too much
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Old 24 Jun 2018, 01:27 (Ref:3832767)   #17
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Practically any circuit can be the scene of a large crash; NASCAR has had "big ones" at every track except Martinsville, and that includes Watkins Glen and Sonoma.

If these cars can't pass at Hungaroring or Zandvoort, or at least not to the level of your satisfaction, I don't know what to tell you.

I'm at least curious to see what the Wuhan street circuit looks like, but I'm not expecting much. I'd also like to see how a race goes at Ningbo, not just the cars parading around under yellow in the rain. In the end though, I'm probably not too interested in either one after getting a proper taste just to see. I don't much care for this second iteration of the Marrakech circuit.

I'm good with the Nordschleife and reasonable with Zandvoort. If they use the full course at Suzuka, I wouldn't mind seeing how that goes. A significant issue is the power cut in the cars, going from TC1 to TCR, which means they just can't pull the big straights at most all the big-name tracks. This also means, when they slipstream and then pull out to pass, they hit a brick wall, because they've run out of steam.

So yeah, the Nordschleife, Vila Real, and Macau are easily the three venues I most look forward to on the calendar. Tight confines are fine, so long as you show respect and some measure of discretion. If you don't, not even the wide-open spaces of a Cleveland or Riverside will be enough to save you from yourself.

If I were offering potential alternative venues:
Dijon, France
Sachsenring, Germany
Zolder, Belgium
Brands Hatch, Great Britain
Inje, South Korea
Sugo, Japan
Rosario or El Zonda, Argentina

Estoril has been remade for MotoGP since its F1 days. Several corners have been tightened to where you're unlikely to get two-wide, and like Algarve, the long main straight, which should be a boon, will leave the TCR machines breathless, unable to pull out and actually pass at the end at terminal velocity. Furthermore, a lot of those big-name tracks just aren't "filled up" by a series like this. The track just feels "too big" for the cars, or the cars seem "too small" for the track.

Back when they were alternating between Porto and Portimao, I took a look, but didn't get much sense of anything special from the WTCC at Algarve; the cars just seemed out of place, out of their element. For this series, Vila Real is simply far more enticing. And I could say the same in that I'd much rather see them at Macau than Shanghai, Tianma, Goldenport, Chengdu, Guangdong, or Ordos.

All that said, I'm fine keeping the WTCR to just Vila Real and Macau in terms of the temporary circuits. Pau can remain as F3's equivalent in Europe.
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Old 24 Jun 2018, 07:24 (Ref:3832786)   #18
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That crash could've been quite a bit nastier. There were multiple drivers blocked in by others while Bjorks car was on fire, do these guys have the roof hatches like GT3's do? If not that might be something to think about. Also Erlachers car was punctured by the guardrail, had that been a meter earlier Yann would be Kubica-ed. The fact they all walked away is a compliment to the safety of the cars though.

With regards to the track; you need a bit of all. But most of all you need audience and exposure, and Vila Real definitely brought that this weekend
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Old 24 Jun 2018, 07:40 (Ref:3832788)   #19
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Any penalty for Huff (or Bennani) for this crash?


Because that a*hole stewards can punish Norbi for everything, but it seems some guys are untouchable...
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Old 24 Jun 2018, 09:07 (Ref:3832807)   #20
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Any penalty for Huff (or Bennani) for this crash?


Because that a*hole stewards can punish Norbi for everything, but it seems some guys are untouchable...
Nothing yet. Agree with penalty in Michelisz-Muller crash in Zabdvoort that was no penalty material, but hitting Huff in rear door is so fair from Michelisz side...
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Old 24 Jun 2018, 09:36 (Ref:3832811)   #21
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Bjork on pole in front of Michelisz and Tarquini.
0.3 and 0.5 faster then them in the same car...
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Old 24 Jun 2018, 11:27 (Ref:3832825)   #22
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Just got a chance to watch race 1. Why was Vernay starting in P4 in the restarted race?
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Old 24 Jun 2018, 13:07 (Ref:3832841)   #23
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Any penalty for Huff (or Bennani) for this crash?


Because that a*hole stewards can punish Norbi for everything, but it seems some guys are untouchable...
or maybe waiting to interveiw them (did people forgot someone went in one of those things that is always on stand by at any race track)
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Old 24 Jun 2018, 14:15 (Ref:3832852)   #24
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It takes two to tango.
but only one to ram a team-mate and cause carnage...
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Old 25 Jun 2018, 08:57 (Ref:3832986)   #25
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WTCR really needs to re-think the calendar. So far they visited 5 venues, NONE of which really offer overtaking opportunities even for TCR cars.
4 street circuits of 10 is way too much
2 venues in a 10 round calendar is also way too much
I agree, a championship with a great potential ruined by a no sense calendar. I have only appreciate the race in Hungary and at the Nordschleife so far.
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Old 26 Jun 2018, 06:28 (Ref:3833141)   #26
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but only one to ram a team-mate and cause carnage...
Watch race three and see how both the Hyundai's manage to conceeded and give room in the same exact scenario.
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Old 26 Jun 2018, 06:30 (Ref:3833142)   #27
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I'd love to be inside the stewards office and see how they determine corner-cutting penalties. Seems like it's a flip of a coin?
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Old 26 Jun 2018, 10:22 (Ref:3833169)   #28
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its ridiculous they didn't give any penalty for vervish? 2 times Muller passed him and 2 times he cut the chicane and stayed in front him! bennani should be stopped until the end of season!! he also was the guilty when something similar happened in Marrakech with tc1 cars.
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Old 26 Jun 2018, 11:12 (Ref:3833172)   #29
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I'm surprised that Bennani hasn't been fired by SLR yet. Destroying both cars of the team completely, colliding with team mate, destroying chances for a good result for the team and making the team withdraw from the round, these are reasons that are enough to fire any driver from the team.
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I'm surprised that Bennani hasn't been fired by SLR yet. Destroying both cars of the team completely, colliding with team mate, destroying chances for a good result for the team and making the team withdraw from the round, these are reasons that are enough to fire any driver from the team.
A team rarely fires a driver, that brings so much money to team as Bennani does....but they might charge him for two new Golfs...
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