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Good move from CFH.
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According wto Wikipedia, there are open seats at Andretti, Herta, Ganassi, Dale Coyne (2x), KV and Schmidt.
Drivers without seats include Briscoe, Wilson, Huertas, Saavedra, Serviá, Hildebrand, Davison, Karam, Chaves and Veach. |
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I wonder what awaits for Justin Wilson, it's all gone very quiet on Andretti, KV, Coyne, or anything for him. Surely Honda are going to do everything they can to get him in at Andretti - he'd be a major contender.
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I certainly hope so. Great guy too, terrific with the fans.
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Gabby Chaves confirmed for a full time drive at BHA.
That leave us 6 available seats with one almost sure (Karam @CGR). AJ FOYT RACING (Honda) #14 Takuma Sato #41 Jack Hawksworth ANDRETTI AUTOSPORT (Honda) #25 Marco Andretti #27 TBA #28 Ryan Hunter-Reay #34 Carlos Munoz BRYAN HERTA AUTOSPORT (Honda) #98 Gabby Chaves CFH RACING (Chevy) #20 Ed Carpenter and Luca Filippi #67 Josef Newgarden CHIP GANASSI RACING (Chevy) #8 TBA #9 Scott Dixon #10 Tony Kanaan #83 Charlie Kimball DALE COYNE RACING (Honda) #18 TBA #19 TBA FAN FORCE UNITED (TBA) #5 Stefan Wilson KV RACING TECHNOLOGY (Chevy) #11 Sebastien Bourdais #17 TBA RAHAL LETTERMAN LANIGAN RACING (Honda) #15 Graham Rahal SCHMIDT PETERSON MOTORSPORT (Honda) #7 TBA #77 James Hinchcliffe TEAM PENSKE (Chevy) #1 Will Power #2 Juan Pablo Montoya #3 Helio Castroneves #22 Simon Pagenaud |
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How long have you been watching North American open wheel racing? Do you remember what the ChampCars were like in the mid 2000's? They exploded out of tight corners and were nervous on the limit. You had to DRIVE them. These slugs have too much downforce and not enough power. They waddle out of corners. Even with all that downforce these clowns can't get through a street race without a red flag for blocking the track. |
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Does anyone really think Fan Force United will take the grid? I haven't heard anything about FFU in months. Certainly we would have heard an engine announcment by now.
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I like Indycar well enough. But I don't think it can be a mass sport anymore. The motorsport space is shrinking and Nascar basically occupies all of that space. I think the public has fallen out of love with motorsport generally, fan acquisition is a problem for every series and the Indycar recovery has been caught in the headwinds of that. Indycar finds itself in a situation of trying to get warm during the beginning of an ice age.
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The FB page hasnt been updated since August, and their website seemingly since April.. doesnt give you the confidence that a big program is in the offing...
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Sounds like a typical male teenager. I remember when I was in high school (4 years ago), my friends would tease me for watching motorsports. Wasn't a big deal but they never understood how I could watch a 24 hour race or even a 500 mile race.
I think one of best ways to get people interested in motorsports again is to provide content that no other sport can. Sometimes they put a camera on a guy's feet to show how much work he's doing in the car. Or near a tire to show the stress being put on a car. NASCAR has headcams on pit members. We've seen stuff like this before but it should become more common. |
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It wasn't like that before. Back when they had proper cars bump day was sold out. The Toronto Indy had twice as many grandstands erected and they were packed. They had good tv ratings. Real sponsors, multiple engine, tire and chassis manufacturers. Thank god Tony George fixed that.
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Would providing content that other sports don't provide, make a difference? I personally think teenagers my son's age just don't find motorsport itself particularly interesting. For example I suggested we go to the Formula E British round at Battersea Park, as we live near by and his response was to immitate the sound of an FE car. Maybe as he gets older he might get interested but at the moment I won't hold my breath. |
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Well we definitely know that interest in cars has steadily declined. But at the same time, I think people are starting to find new forms of motorsport instead of just watching F1 and NASCAR. I know a lot of people who have started to watch sports cars and all of them come from a NASCAR background. Going to a live event usually changes people's minds. Maybe your son will give it a chance one day.
My rational is if Top Gear can get huge audiences, then surely there are still enough people out there that like cars. Surely the majority don't watch for just the comedy. The challenge for promoters is to try to attract those people that like cars and try to make them watch for 2 hours. |
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They maybe tame, slow and spec in compared to what they used to, but show me a modern single seater that's hyper poweful and challenging to drive? They're all the same today, same boring meh-ness. At least ICS still has the bumpy, unspoiled tracks to make up for some of it, and not sterile asphaltdromes with identical features like it's European cousins.
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Sigh.
This thread is "Indycar News & Rumors", not "let's once again re-hash the old chestnut about How Great Things Used To Be But Aren't Anymore". Please. Back on topic - I also doubt Fan Force United will make the grid. Where there's smoke, there's fire... but I detect a distinct lack of smoke. |
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In regards to declining interest in cars and motorsport, I don't believe that's the case. Tons of road courses and ovals have been built in the USA over the past 20 years and many of them stay busy.
Do I think that we've gotten too far into our phones, internet and virtual reality? Yep, especially with younger folks. But the car is not dead yet. In regards to professional motorsport, it's not enough to say "I am the pinnacle of the sport", you have to be it, live it, look like it and right now it is not. The general public has no interest in it because it's totally boring. |
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Couple of years after his championship year Finnish media started to give him some recogniton, but it was too late. Now he does not speak to Finnish reporters except a few chosen ones and Nico does not speak Finnish. So if I were old enough, maybe I would've been teased for supporting Keke between 1978 and 1981. But what I originally intended to say is that though Finnish drivers have been successful almost in every form of motorsports, only those ones who drive in F1 or WRC really get any recognition. And those fans who watch those 'minor leagues' are basically considered as weirdo's who eat children and sniff gasoline. There are few exceptions; when JJ Lehto moved to US and started a new career in Champ Car (or CART in 1998) he had solid fanbase (though smaller than Häkkinen's) and we even saw the CART races live on national TV. I have no idea about the figures but I think those races were quite popular though harder to follow than F1 because of the -7...-10 or +7...+9 time differences. Of course when Lehto was sacked from CART, live coverages were gone and so was any wider knowledge about North American motorsports. And today to for the major audiences JJ is an F1-reject and the accident with a motorboat didn't excactly help with it. |
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