"We were a little deflated"

[bluesport]

Once upon a time, there was a company that had enough passion for their product that following defeat at Bathurst they took out a full page advert to explain what happened..........now, after three successive losses at Bathurst, we don't hear "boo" from them and they don't seem to care........what happened to them, where did they disappear to?

http://www.falcongt.info/history/art..._Article-3.htm

[Falcadore]

Originally Posted by bluesport

Once upon a time, there was a company that had enough passion for their product that following defeat at Bathurst they took out a full page advert to explain what happened..........now, after three successive losses at Bathurst, we don't hear "boo" from them and they don't seem to care........what happened to them, where did they disappear to?

http://www.falcongt.info/history/art..._Article-3.htm

The 1969 Ford team was a genuine factory team, owned by Ford and Ford themselves was directly or inderectly. Something which is not true of any Ford racing team since 1973. This is not a valid comparison.

[eduardo1]

Why would you pay good money to advertise the fact that you lost?

[Average Punter]

We were a little defeated.................

[Umai Naa]

Even if a Ford-badged car won, you wouldn't hear much from Ford about it.

[TSR]

Originally Posted by Umai Naa

Even if a Ford-badged car won, you wouldn't hear much from Ford about it.

Ford PR deptmartment is and has being the worse dept to come out of HQ Broadmeadows for the last 30 plus years closely followed by the HQ Head office.

I'm Ford through and through and over the years can not believe the crap choices that come out of HQ.

To me they dont not give a flying toss what the fans ( WHO BUY THERE PRODUCT AND SUPPORT THAT PRODUCT ON THE TRACK ) give a damm about. Like most company all they worry about is the $$$$.

Holden's PR Dept ****s all over the Ford PR Dept and has since atleast 1980.

[Downoz]

Is Ford still in Australia?

[GTRMagic]

[GTRMagic]

Originally Posted by bluesport

Once upon a time, there was a company that had enough passion for their product that following defeat at Bathurst they took out a full page advert to explain what happened..........now, after three successive losses at Bathurst, we don't hear "boo" from them and they don't seem to care........what happened to them, where did they disappear to?

http://www.falcongt.info/history/art..._Article-3.htm

[bluesport]

Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Good work GTR, that's the one.

[Goat Boy]

Originally Posted by TSR

Ford PR deptmartment is and has being the worse dept to come out of HQ Broadmeadows for the last 30 plus years closely followed by the HQ Head office.

I'm Ford through and through and over the years can not believe the crap choices that come out of HQ.

To me they dont not give a flying toss what the fans ( WHO BUY THERE PRODUCT AND SUPPORT THAT PRODUCT ON THE TRACK ) give a damm about. Like most company all they worry about is the $$$$.

Holden's PR Dept ****s all over the Ford PR Dept and has since atleast 1980.

I reckon Holden is more an Aussie brand than Ford, despite it being owned by GM, but it seems Ford Oz dances to the tune of an American piper much more.

And let's face it, the only time the Yanks give much of a toss about anyone other than themselves in when they need help in a war...

[FAS33]

Originally Posted by Goat Boy

I reckon Holden is more an Aussie brand than Ford, despite it being owned by GM, but it seems Ford Oz dances to the tune of an American piper much more.

And let's face it, the only time the Yanks give much of a toss about anyone other than themselves in when they need help in a war...

nope The cars from Ford Aus are more Aussie then the Holdens, at least FPV make their own engines

[Goat Boy]

Originally Posted by FAS33

nope The cars from Ford Aus are more Aussie then the Holdens, at least FPV make their own engines

No I meant as a company and a brand rather than the product. But FPV don't cast their own blocks and heads, etc. do they?

[FAS33]

Originally Posted by Goat Boy

No I meant as a company and a brand rather than the product. But FPV don't cast their own blocks and heads, etc. do they?

still better then HSV efforts, no?

although they do have one they done in the past worthy of competing to the home blown Miami, forgot it's name, but it was a cracker

[Chris - Melb]

Originally Posted by bluesport

Once upon a time, there was a company that had enough passion for their product that following defeat at Bathurst they took out a full page advert to explain what happened..........now, after three successive losses at Bathurst, we don't hear "boo" from them and they don't seem to care........what happened to them, where did they disappear to?

http://www.falcongt.info/history/art..._Article-3.htm

The current automotive industry landscape is vastly different to 1969. Holden and Ford almost at the market to themselves. The market is far more diverse now and has been swamped by high volume world models from overseas, thanks to the high Australian dollar.

I'm thankful that Ford is still spending money on motorsport despite bigger players like Toyota not doing so.

The greenies have started to make motor racing a dirty word, thanks to carbon mania. I think Ford are happy to support the motor racing interests of enthusiasts such as ourselves and keep the passion for the brand through motorsport going but without shouting its involvement from the roof tops as they once would.

I know it's frustrating, but that's simply how it is and nothing can really make that change.

Even Holden is cutting back. Only T8 and HRT have any Holden funding worth talking about and the other Holden runners are simply making up the numbers. Look at the results sheet of non-endurance races and more often than not the bottom is mostly full of Holdens.

If Ford has (presumably) four well funded Ford supported cars at FPR next year then we could be in for our best year for some time. The money they have spent on Stone Bros over the last couple of years has all but been a waste. It's been FPR doing 99% of the winning.

I think the glass is half full…

[bluesport]

Originally Posted by Chris - Melb

The current automotive industry landscape is vastly different to 1969. Holden and Ford almost at the market to themselves. The market is far more diverse now and has been swamped by high volume world models from overseas, thanks to the high Australian dollar.

I'm thankful that Ford is still spending money on motorsport despite bigger players like Toyota not doing so.

The greenies have started to make motor racing a dirty word, thanks to carbon mania. I think Ford are happy to support the motor racing interests of enthusiasts such as ourselves and keep the passion for the brand through motorsport going but without shouting its involvement from the roof tops as they once would.

I know it's frustrating, but that's simply how it is and nothing can really make that change.

Even Holden is cutting back. Only T8 and HRT have any Holden funding worth talking about and the other Holden runners are simply making up the numbers. Look at the results sheet of non-endurance races and more often than not the bottom is mostly full of Holdens.

If Ford has (presumably) four well funded Ford supported cars at FPR next year then we could be in for our best year for some time. The money they have spent on Stone Bros over the last couple of years has all but been a waste. It's been FPR doing 99% of the winning.

I think the glass is half full…

OK Chris, thanks for that well thought out and balanced post.........you're most likely correct.

[Southern Man]

Originally Posted by Goat Boy

And let's face it, the only time the Yanks give much of a toss about anyone other than themselves in when they need help in a war...

As evidenced during the period 1939 - 1946

[Downoz]

Originally Posted by Southern Man

As evidenced during the period 1939 - 1946

Actually that was 1939 - 15th August 1945. But aint it good to have someone big to back you up if you need then.

[Downoz]

Ford have pulled the pin on the WRC.

[RedZedMikey]

Originally Posted by Downoz

Actually that was 1939 - 15th August 1945. But aint it good to have someone big to back you up if you need then.

And they didn't give much of a toss before Dec 7th 1941, either ....

[DAVID PATERSON]

Originally Posted by eduardo1

Why would you pay good money to advertise the fact that you lost?

To put the blame on someone else.

[Axeman444]

Ford must be in it for something though. The iRacing V8Supercars series consists only of FG Falcons. There is also a Hotwheels FG Falcon that has been released. Biante have released a few variants of cleanskin Falcon Racecars, where until recently Holden refused to allow it.

Obviously the Ford PR department isn't bad in every aspect

[Umai Naa]

But that's all effortless stuff that a stroke of the pen could approve, without having to do any of the legwork themselves.

[Axeman444]

and yet Holden/GM don't do it

[HProject]

Originally Posted by Axeman444

and yet Holden/GM don't do it

Well, they do have a Matchbox Holden SSV Ute - so that's something