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21 Sep 2019, 03:09 (Ref:3929198) | #7176 | |
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26 Sep 2019, 08:51 (Ref:3930193) | #7178 | ||
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Reduced peak rpm looking like the favoured approach to slow LMP2, and spec tyres in all classes on the cards too.
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I think that's the idea. Goodyear must have done their homework on this and either been assured of open competition or a realistic shot at supplying one or more classes. Why risk a high profile return otherwise.
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8 Oct 2019, 14:27 (Ref:3932716) | #7181 | ||
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I wonder if the proposed slowing of LMP2 will have any impact on the relative performance of the different chassis. For example, if the Ligier is a bit draggy and the Dallara has an aero imbalance, will a lower top speed help them close the gap to Oreca? Or if one of them is traction-limited compared to the others, will having less power to put down even things up a bit? Maybe that's just wishful thinking.
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8 Oct 2019, 18:56 (Ref:3932775) | #7182 | |
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Generally less power favours lower drag cars. Like historically LMP2s run much less downforce than LMP1 because of the power deficit keeping them from being able to carry that kind of drag level. RPM reduction won't do much to reduce torque at corner exits.
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9 Oct 2019, 16:45 (Ref:3932948) | #7184 | |
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Been saying that since they announced that target lap times.
Make it LMP1 speed. Don't need to adjust anything. Make it LMP2 speed, have to slow every other class down - LMP2, LMP3, GTE and GTC or whatever that GT3 spec class is called in Le Mans Cup now. And the LMP2s in Asia. And whatever knock on that has for LMP2s and LMP3s elsewhere. Blah blah, etc. Make em LMP1 speed. |
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9 Oct 2019, 20:09 (Ref:3932982) | #7185 | |
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I said that same thing. They sped up lmp2 to make it faster on the straights than GTE so they can pass easier there instead of taking risks in the corners. Hypercar is too heavy at the current proposal. I think even at 1000kg it's too heavy let alone 1100. That's approaching GTE class weights. They're going to make lmp3 faster, to separate it from GTE, which will then approach lmp2 you can't make this stuff up. It's seemingly all to appease an automaker. I figure it has to be Aston Martin. Someone didn't want to make a prototype so they decided to use their road car as a base but that road car can't go on a diet. Or they just don't want to spend money on that. If this isn't the reason for the 1100kg weight, with room to add MORE ballast, I can't imagine what other explanation makes sense.
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10 Oct 2019, 06:33 (Ref:3933053) | #7186 | ||
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Could be interesting to look into a weight/power regulation, meaning if Aston Martin want to run a 1100kg car, then they are allowed X amount of Bhp.
If Toyota wants to run a 700kg car, then they are restricted to Y amount of Bhp. |
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10 Oct 2019, 13:17 (Ref:3933119) | #7187 | |
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You can't displace that weight with power, this is not a drag race, weight just kills too much of your cornering speed.
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11 Oct 2019, 11:25 (Ref:3933264) | #7188 | ||
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13 Oct 2019, 20:04 (Ref:3934168) | #7189 | ||
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Hypercar+DPI convergence is making a surprise return according to this (somewhat speculative) Autohedbo article.
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21 Oct 2019, 19:40 (Ref:3936122) | #7190 | ||
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Hypercar/ DPi 2.0/ Class One – And All That.
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21 Oct 2019, 23:48 (Ref:3936143) | #7191 | |
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I don't think class 1 will have a chance because only one manufacturer (BMW) wants it. I am hopeful that DPi 2.0 will be very close to or the same as hypercar. I also hope that hypercar is faster than predicted so lmp2 isn't gimping along barely enough to pass GTE.
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22 Oct 2019, 01:19 (Ref:3936154) | #7192 | |
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22 Oct 2019, 07:53 (Ref:3936186) | #7193 | ||
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Some sort of DPi/hypercar cross over is surely more likely now that both are BoP series.
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24 Oct 2019, 13:38 (Ref:3936568) | #7195 | |
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But only one OEM (AMR) really seemed to want this Hypercar thing as well yet they still went with it
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Class 1 cars and engines with success ballast would be infinitely preferable to both Hypercar and DPi. The cars may have specness and bulky visual styles the pre-DTM GT500 regulations did not, but at least SGT still seems to have at least some sort of honest technical aspect to it and not only just bop. Of course, having actual tire war with various companies helps too. As does their performance levels
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24 Oct 2019, 20:44 (Ref:3936622) | #7200 | |
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I prefer hypercar because there's 'nothing' spec about it. There's bop, but it seems like they'd use bop for whatever the new top class is anyway. Toyota will use a prototype still just to new dimensions while Aston will use a race version of the Valkyrie- which is nearly a prototype anyway. The thing that bothers me most is the weight of the cars which is probably the reason why they're so slow relative to today's lmp1's.
If, a big if, DPi is merged with hypercar, it might be that the future of the hypercar class will actually be more like prototypes instead of faster GT-type cars. |
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