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Old 11 Mar 2004, 15:59 (Ref:902088)   #1
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jordans decline -designers

Can anyone help me?
I'm trying to remember/piece together the way jordan went downhill after getting close to winning a WDC in '99.

Obviously (as some famous designer(patrick?) said)
they were not really THAT close to the top and spending big was an error of timing.They should have been a little more realistic and let the growth be more gradual.

As i recall,the next years car was built superlight and performed pretty well but had horrid reliability.
After that i think gascoine left for a new challenge and eddie grabbed that guy that did the aero work for the 2000/2001(?) model arrows.What was his name?Indian i recall.
The trouble was that the great performance (relatively)of the arrows was mostly the work of another engineer*.So eddie got a dud!In fact i think he was sacked before the season was far underway-something about designing the front suspension members wrong so that they broke the rules?

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*I think it was frank dernie ,the guy who helped out williams last year.I wonder how much input he had as to the great leap in performance mid season?
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Old 11 Mar 2004, 16:07 (Ref:902097)   #2
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I believe Eghbal Hamidy is the Indian fellow you are referring to.
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Old 11 Mar 2004, 16:09 (Ref:902098)   #3
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My spelling could be wrong. Yes, he turned out to be a dud.

Speaking of duds, how about Brunner at Toyota? Poor Mike, he's got a heck of a job to do.
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Old 11 Mar 2004, 16:10 (Ref:902102)   #4
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I think Eghbal Hamidy is from the Mid-East. Anyway. Could it be also Mike Coughlan, now at McLaren, the guy who did the A21?
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Eghbal Hamidy is an Iranian engineer.
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it was hamidy .... basically they didnt get a works engine that year and had horrid reliabilty the next year
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Wasn't Eghbal Hamidy's first Jordan beneath the minimum dimensions required or something? I think that is what led to his sacking.
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Ah that's the guy i think Jordi-mike coughlan.
From what i've read and seen it seems it may have been mainly him that was responsible for the reletively good performance of the arrows.
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Losing Honda to BAR was the nail in the coffin but it started at the beginning of that last Honda year when the car turned out to be a dog.
They're best years (aside from year one-1991) was when they had the Mugen engine (back door Honda). I have never understood why Honda didn't just let Mugen do it. They haven't done any better themselves.
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Wasn't Eghbal Hamidy's first Jordan beneath the minimum dimensions required or something? I think that is what led to his sacking.
Yeah I heard that Hamidys Jordan was super radical, super cutting edge, super illegal and super expensive hence a shody redesign and his sacking.
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