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Old 10 Jan 2005, 17:08 (Ref:1197410)   #1
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Jerez Testing (updated 14/01/05)

10/01/05

Williams and BAR are out testing today.

Williams have Heidfeld and Webber driving. Nick did himself a power of good by outpacing Webber by a whisker. According to the report MW and NH did a similar number of laps and were on track at the same time so the times are representative.

BAR were running a hybrid 2004/05 car.

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1. Nick Heidfeld (Williams) 1m17.457s, 91 laps
2. Mark Webber (Williams) 1m17.583s, 90 laps
3. Anthony Davidson (BAR) 1m18.202s, 75 laps
4. Enrique Bernoldi (BAR), 1m19.255s, 89 laps

Tomorrow we get to see the first run out of the Toyota TF105, plus Ferrari and Renault are set to run.


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Old 10 Jan 2005, 18:12 (Ref:1197452)   #2
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I posted a thread 4 mins before this!..."Some teams are in for a shock!"...sorry for any confusion.

Thanks for publishing Autosports times Super Tourer...remember they arn't official times...teams publish there own and some teams PO's release them to the press.

Williams are running the old 2004 wings, BAR are testing 2005 spec, so don't be fooled folks!
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Old 10 Jan 2005, 18:33 (Ref:1197469)   #3
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They could both be running the same rules and I would pretty much disregard the times.

The interesting points here are that all ran many laps. An easy start to testing which will no doubt build until March.
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Old 10 Jan 2005, 21:08 (Ref:1197598)   #4
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The point here is that Heidfeld appears to be making all the right moves for that second seat.
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Old 10 Jan 2005, 23:39 (Ref:1197717)   #5
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The point here is that Heidfeld appears to be making all the right moves for that second seat.
The problem is we don't know what Nick and Antonio were testing so getting to the top of the timesheets is meaningless to anyone outside of the team.

Does build a good argument to annoy Pizzonia fans though
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Old 11 Jan 2005, 00:02 (Ref:1197735)   #6
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How can Pizzonia stand a hope in hell when Heidfeld hasn't put a foot wrong since he quit the Prost team many moons ago. He dfinately deserves his chance and should have the ability to mix it with Webber.
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Old 11 Jan 2005, 16:54 (Ref:1198261)   #7
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Todays times - 11/01/05

Webber reversed the position of yesterday slightly outpacing Heidfeld.

Toyota ran their new car but completed fewer laps due to minor overheating problems.


1, Mark Webber (Williams) 1m16.558s, 116 laps
2, Nick Heidfeld (Williams) 1m16.765s, 86 laps
3, Franck Montagny (Renault) 1m17.458s, 104 laps
4, Anthony Davidson (BAR) 1m18.593s, 96 laps
5, Ralf Schumacher (Toyota) 1m19.018s, 40 laps
6, Enrique Bernoldi (BAR) 1m20.178s, 134 laps

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Old 11 Jan 2005, 17:52 (Ref:1198293)   #8
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What's up with BAR? They've seemed way off the pace all throughout the winter testing. Being a BAR Honda fan I'm worried for the new season ahead.
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Aren't they running lower downforce spec to Williams?
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Doesn't appear to be a bad start for Toyota with Ralf filleting the BAR's
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What's up with BAR? They've seemed way off the pace all throughout the winter testing. Being a BAR Honda fan I'm worried for the new season ahead.

They are not way off the pace - but there is little to be gained by looking at headline times and trying to draw a conclusion.
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Doesn't appear to be a bad start for Toyota with Ralf filleting the BAR's
As BAR are running their hybrid and Toyota are running their 05 car with only half a second difference... with logic dictating that BAR will produce a tidy car, does that mean Toyota have knocked out a better car than most expect?

May aswell kick start the '05 testing speculation right?
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Old 11 Jan 2005, 19:12 (Ref:1198342)   #13
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As BAR are running their hybrid and Toyota are running their 05 car with only half a second difference... with logic dictating that BAR will produce a tidy car, does that mean Toyota have knocked out a better car than most expect?

May aswell kick start the '05 testing speculation right?
Certainly looks encouraging for a first run out.

As KB says, times not easy to read at this time of year but BAR have done a lot of hybrid/2005 spec running and seem to be following the same work process as they did with the concept car last year. If it delivers the same result they will be in good shape.
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As BAR are running their hybrid and Toyota are running their 05 car with only half a second difference... with logic dictating that BAR will produce a tidy car, does that mean Toyota have knocked out a better car than most expect?
This is a difficult one.

BAR will presumably produce a '05 car that is quicker than the '04/'05 concept/hybrid car so should be well ahead of the Toyota. However for the Toyota to be so close to an established car after so little little running is quite encouraging.
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Old 12 Jan 2005, 05:05 (Ref:1198690)   #15
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BAR and Ferrari were both near the bottom of the time sheets before the Christmas break. BAR continue to run near the bottom of the order as testing resumes. The '05 cars will be slower. We all know this. If they're testing a good number of '05 parts the cars should be slower.
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That's an impressive debut from the Toyota, and Ralf reckons the balance is pretty good straight off - they are getting there, for sure.
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the 1st break of the year belong to BAR I don't know who it was but being towed back
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I thought Webbers Williams had to be dragged back too (yesterday I think) whenever it was it brought out the red flags.
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Pizzonia was pictured out of the car peering at the rear, it also looks like a Ferrari had a trip into the tyrewall during the day.

No doubt we will get times and more info shortly.
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Found the link I was looking for now:

http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpa...s_art_id=23235

Webber had a 'mechanical problem' apparently.
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Pizza not so fast apperently....
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Nice one for Nick... beats MW on the first day and is not embarresed by Webber on the second.... Pizza-boy will have to be on top form. IMHO it should not even be a contest... i think Nick is just better than AP...but thats my opinion.


BTW not a bad start for the Toyo's.... if you consider that the cars will be about 2-3 secs slower.. then their lap time doesnt look too bad.... guess we'll know when the big guns unveil their 2005 challengers
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Today's times - 12/01/05
http://www.f1racing.net/en/testresults.php?testID=186


Pos. Driver Team Time Laps
1 M. Webber Williams 01:16:505 72
2 K. Räikkönen McLaren 01:16:857 89
3 A. Wurz McLaren 01:17:185 99
4 F. Montagny Renault 01:17:464 135
5 J. Button BAR 01:17:568 93
6 A. Pizzonia Williams 01:17:691 63
7 A. Davidson BAR 01:17:705 124
8 R. Schumacher Toyota 01:18:242 69
9 M. Gené Ferrari 01:18:255 35



Gene's running cut short by a trip into the tyrewall.

Test report.
http://www.f1racing.net/en/news.php?newsID=73852
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