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Old 12 Mar 2014, 22:08 (Ref:3377992)   #251
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Maybe the fin discussion should be in the lmp future regs thread? Not many here like it, but we shouldn't clutter up these car specific threads with talk about their success or failure, right?
Agreed. Let's not clutter this dedicated TS040 thread with this discussion anymore. So Deltawing, my reply to your last post will be found there.
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Old 17 Mar 2014, 21:48 (Ref:3381257)   #252
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Old 18 Mar 2014, 03:07 (Ref:3381339)   #253
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As for the engine, Id say theyre in much better shape than last year with the improved efficiency thanks to the higher hybrid allowance and in better shape than Porsche.
Improved efficiency thanks ??

I think Toyota will go like Audi pretty much to the limits all season... they have the advantage of 2MJ, and ~equal advantage of fuel tank compared to 13... depends on how they can trade the 2MJ with less fuel flow so more economy, but perhaps they will be "comparatively to 13" a tiny little bit slower than an Audi, yet able to do more laps per tank LOL

Which is an "arranged" counter-sense ... transposed to road cars and the propaganda mantras that could emanate from this, all sport and super cars will pass to be diesels, and all common ones will be petrol because more economic LOL
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Old 18 Mar 2014, 05:44 (Ref:3381354)   #254
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Old 18 Mar 2014, 08:25 (Ref:3381379)   #255
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Danny Chen tweeted the photoshoot with the TS040 is done, so 9 days till reveal!
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Old 18 Mar 2014, 11:17 (Ref:3381429)   #256
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Danny Chen tweeted the photoshoot with the TS040 is done, so 9 days till reveal!
Oh my!
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Old 20 Mar 2014, 07:35 (Ref:3382135)   #257
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Totota focusing also on a rally return

Sarrazin back to his roots...temporary..

he is testing new Toyota Wrc in Tuscany, Italy in a private area untill Friday
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info: test toyota with Motosport Italia team. Robert Kubica was there and he we was forced to go off. Yesterday there was a pause too because of an helicopter tried to film the new car. Also top management Toyota will be present at the test
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Old 20 Mar 2014, 08:23 (Ref:3382148)   #258
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Yes Akio Toyoda himself wants Toyota in rally, but with a hybrid. So look for 2017 to be their return. Which is good news for the lmp1 program.
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Old 20 Mar 2014, 08:36 (Ref:3382155)   #259
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They are testing the car now and they will only run in 2017, which is in 3 years
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They are testing the car now and they will only run in 2017, which is in 3 years
I can't fathom it either. It does not take 3 years to test a rally car.
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I think it's another project from Toyota which does not have the highest priority for them.

Toyota has a history of having TMG build cars for testing purposes that are then never raced (the Lexus GTE for example), I think this is another case of that.

Let's just hope TMG does not have to cut the LMP budget for this kind of stuff.
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Old 20 Mar 2014, 13:26 (Ref:3382269)   #262
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I think it's another project from Toyota which does not have the highest priority for them.

Toyota has a history of having TMG build cars for testing purposes that are then never raced (the Lexus GTE for example), I think this is another case of that.

Let's just hope TMG does not have to cut the LMP budget for this kind of stuff.
Very often, it's the Motorsport department themselves who launch these projects, without the mother company's knowledge, in hope they can create a quick enough car to persuade them to fund it.
So TMG might be pulling the funds out of the LMP budget themselves.
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Old 20 Mar 2014, 13:57 (Ref:3382286)   #263
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That would be rather puzzling then. Why would they bother starting a new project when the current one has not been successful yet?

They're "just" taken on Audi and Porsche at Le Mans, one would think that such a task would call all resources to be focused. I guess not..
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Old 20 Mar 2014, 14:50 (Ref:3382317)   #264
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That would be rather puzzling then. Why would they bother starting a new project when the current one has not been successful yet?

They're "just" taken on Audi and Porsche at Le Mans, one would think that such a task would call all resources to be focused. I guess not..
Sometimes these people are so enthusiastic about their jobs, that they spend their spare time on it.
This was the case of the Peugeot 305 V6:

Audi did the same with the Audi Group S Prototype:

(Although that was more than just spare time)
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And the TTRS for SP3T racing, it was pretty much assembled with bits and pieces in the Audi Sport garage.
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That would be rather puzzling then. Why would they bother starting a new project when the current one has not been successful yet?

They're "just" taken on Audi and Porsche at Le Mans, one would think that such a task would call all resources to be focused. I guess not..
I'd be pretty surprised if everyone at TMG is solely working on the TS040
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They are testing the car now and they will only run in 2017, which is in 3 years
Read the Autosport piece. They denied it would enter next year, which means the earliest is 2016, yet new regs are due 2017! So why enter one year just to make a new car the next? This car has been testing in different forms since 2012 btw.

On topic, Toyota has an open question session on twitter starting the 27th coinciding with their TS040 reveal- http://www.toyotahybridracing.com/as...bastien-buemi/ #AskTS040 for Wurz and Buemi! Sounds interesting. Hopefully some insight of the car is explored in the questions.
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Toyota Yaris WRC test videos:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22LFPyyT5to

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10152235179558808

look and sound like it has been tested for some time already

perhaps few spot entries in wrc 2016 and then full wrc assault from 2017 (new rules also from 2017 if not postponed)
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As long as it doesn’t affect their WEC campaign – that should be their main focus!
Not sure what the 2017 regs are – they do want hybrids; is that realistic for the WRC?
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Is there any confirmation about the possible increase of the displacement of the V8 from 3,4 to 3,7 litres ?
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Is there any confirmation about the possible increase of the displacement of the V8 from 3,4 to 3,7 litres ?
Only words from Pascal Vasselon last year on which way they were leaning in regards to the engine comfiguration. #AskTS040 tweet the question, maybe you'll get them to answer?!
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