[VASC19R3R4R5R6]Beaurepaires 400, 14-17Mar

[bluesport]

Originally Posted by fomoco

interesting, Jamie did the same lap ties as Scotty.

That's what the commentary was saying, a little less whinging and a bit more hard work can do wonders.

[fomoco]

Originally Posted by Mixer

Difficult because Scotty didn't do any....

Agreed Mixer, previous race , the times Scot did, Jamie did in this race .
A couple of other times were not far of the ark either.

Cars are equal, drivers are not

[fomoco]

2019 Formula 1 ROLEX Australian Grand Prix
ALBERT PARK GRAND PRIX CIRCUIT

Virgin Australia Supercars C'ship - Race 5

CLASSIFICATION
Event R12 25 Laps
Scheduled Start 18:30
PRELIMINARY

Page 1 Issue 1
Start Sat Mar 16 18:34
Elapsed Time 51:50
____________________________________________________________________________________________________ ____________________________
Pos Car Competitor/Team Driver Vehicle Cap Laps Race.Time Fastest...Lap

1 55 Supercheap Auto Racing Chaz Mostert Ford Mustang GT 5000 25 51:50.0007 12 1:55.9587*SS
2 88 Red Bull Holden Racing Team Jamie Whincup Holden Commodore ZB 5000 25 51:51.2119 3 1:56.7762 SS
3 14 Freightliner Racing Tim Slade Holden Commodore ZB 5000 25 51:51.9083 15 1:57.0655 SS
4 9 Penrite Racing David Reynolds Holden Commodore ZB 5000 25 51:52.3888 13 1:57.1144 SS
5 12 Shell V-Power Racing Team Fabian Coulthard Ford Mustang GT 5000 25 51:53.6417 12 1:57.1261 SS
6 2 Mobil 1 MEGA Racing Scott Pye Holden Commodore ZB 5000 25 51:54.8955 13 1:57.3788 SS
7 23 Milwaukee Racing Will Davison Ford Mustang GT 5000 25 51:55.2706 15 1:57.0797 SS
8 22 Mobil 1 MEGA Racing James Courtney Holden Commodore ZB 5000 25 51:58.6584 3 1:57.4149 SS
9 8 Freightliner Racing Nick Percat Holden Commodore ZB 5000 25 51:59.4935 3 1:57.4952 SS
10 7 Plus Fitness Racing Andre Heimgartner Nissan Altima 5000 25 51:59.9828 15 1:56.8636 SS
11 99 Penrite Racing Anton de Pasquale Holden Commodore ZB 5000 25 52:00.3050 18 1:57.4995 SS
12 5 The Bottle-O Racing Team Lee Holdsworth Ford Mustang GT 5000 25 52:00.6853 16 1:56.5971 SS
13 18 Irwin Racing Mark Winterbottom Holden Commodore ZB 5000 25 52:00.8532 17 1:57.0805 SS
14 35 Bigmate Racing Todd Hazelwood Holden Commodore ZB 5000 25 52:01.3713 13 1:57.4645 SS
15 19 Truck Assist TEKNO Racing Jack Le Brocq Holden Commodore ZB 5000 25 52:02.2335 14 1:57.5135 SS
16 15 Castrol Racing Rick Kelly Nissan Altima 5000 25 52:02.5775 10 1:57.9716 SS
17 33 Boost Mobile Racing Richie Stanaway Holden Commodore ZB 5000 25 52:02.9110 13 1:57.0360 SS
18 78 Team Harvey Norman Simona De Silvestro Nissan Altima 5000 25 52:02.9286 13 1:57.6087 SS
19 34 Boost Mobile Racing James Golding Holden Commodore ZB 5000 25 52:03.6940 17 1:56.9390 SS
20 3 RABBLE.club Racing Garry Jacobson Nissan Altima 5000 25 52:06.1478 14 1:57.3246 SS
21 21 Team CoolDrive Macauley Jones Holden Commodore ZB 5000 25 52:06.7502 15 1:58.2470 SS
22 97 Red Bull Holden Racing Team Shane van Gisbergen Holden Commodore ZB 5000 23 52:10.3606 18 1:57.6486 SS
NC 17 Shell V-Power Racing Team Scott McLaughlin Ford Mustang GT 5000
NC 6 Monster Energy Racing Team Cameron Waters Ford Mustang GT 5000

Fastest Lap Av.Speed Is 165kph, Race Av.Speed Is 153kph
Current Race Lap Record Is 1:55.7280 Set On 15/03/2019 By Chaz Mostert In A Ford Mustang GT
R=under lap record by greatest margin, r=under lap record, *=fastest lap time

James Golding, 1.56.9 Jamie Whincup 1.56.7 two ends of experience , similar times

[Driver TBA]

Originally Posted by fomoco

Cars are equal, drivers are not

Are they going to check Scotty's COG on Monday too?

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[GTRMagic]

Teams don’t seem to be too equal neither, in putstops amyway. One lets a wheel fall off (presumably a penalty to come?) and another team dumping 3 seconds in a stop compared to the bloke he followed into the pits.

Messy...

[Mixer]

Originally Posted by fomoco

Agreed Mixer, previous race , the times Scot did, Jamie did in this race .
A couple of other times were not far of the ark either.

Long bow to draw, you can't compare times from one day to the next. Track rubbers up, drivers get more confident.

[Tourer]

Originally Posted by fomoco

interesting, Jamie did the same lap ties as Scotty.

Different day so meaningless really but it definitely looks like 888 are getting the car sorted - also as the commentary crew mentioned, whomever has clean air at the front is able to get some benefit.

Personally I suspect there's not much in it, CoG measurements will happen and then everyone will have exact info rather than conjecture.

Similar to last year where there were complaints about bodywork, it was measured and found within the rules but the rules were adjusted. I just see it as a new car thing where maybe some clever paths have been followed and measurements are being taken to confirm what the deal is and if the commission feels that rules need to be changed, they will be, otherwise everyone races on.

[fomoco]

Originally Posted by Mixer

Long bow to draw, you can't compare times from one day to the next. Track rubbers up, drivers get more confident.

That is the point I was making.
I am not Ford/Holden crazy .
I just point out that a few drivers can put a car in the right place to achieve lap times.
So no need to change anything.

If what we have seen in the since Adelaide , DJRPenske/T88 battle and a few others, it looks to be a good year of racing.

BJR had an opportunity , but alas they blew it.

[Sandgroper]

Originally Posted by Armco Bender

FORD win Bathurst 2019...

Oh gawd. I hope you dont come too early: aka premature.

[M Jones]

There may well be a small difference in CoG, but the real difference is in the aero. The cockpit is narrower at the rear allowing more air to the wing on the Mustang, There is bigger distance between the end of the rear window and the wing on the Mustang, and the end plates add huge amounts of stability like an F1 or sprint car. No wonder the Tickford drivers came from nowhere to be front runners now... This is no fluke.

What this also means is the Nissan's could really make a huge gain with a mustang rear wing, more so than the Holden. Heimgartner must be a better driver than the car is showing.

[bluesport]

Red Bull have gone backwards this year relative to other teams, they are now quite often no better than the other holden squads.

[Muznik]

Stanaway disqualified from yesterday’s race & $10k fine.
Wonder if the message will get through to him?

[mayhem]

Nope. His team sponsor is an enabler. His team boss isn't too far behind him. Garth must be smirking though.

[chavez]

Originally Posted by Muznik

Stanaway disqualified from yesterday’s race & $10k fine.
Wonder if the message will get through to him?

Ten Grand for that?

For a sport belatedly discovering its history Stanaway did no worse than Gentleman Jim did on his way to the '87 title.

What a joke.

[Gaz170]

Looks like everyone got through the out lap and warm up lap......

[Mixer]

Agree, Adderton is a ******** so maybe Garry will tolerate it.

[Mixer]

No penalty for Waters for crashing on the out lap, but a fine and a stern telling off for 888 losing a wheel. Bugger me.

[JAFA851]

Lots of bad sportsmanship flags / warnings for overusing the curb at a couple of corners, yet nothing for going miles off the track and making a pass at other corners. The series is becoming a total joke.

[Umai Naa]

Depends what they were told in the drivers' briefing.

Were you there?

[bluesport]

Giz is a joke, cuts the corner, lets Coulthard alongside to pass and then late brakes causing contact and forcing Coulthard off track.

[JAFA851]

The yellow track limit line is painted the whole way around the track, so why have it all the way around if they ignore it for 3/4 of the rack? Just paint it where you'll get pinged if you cross it. It's all BS anyway, because everyone knows the track limit is the wall / armco / fence / earth bank / other hard things that will make a mess of your car.

[JAFA851]

Originally Posted by Umai Naa

Depends what they were told in the drivers' briefing.

Were you there?

Actually I was. It went something like this.

Tim Schenken "If you cross the track limit line on corners x, y, and z, you'll get the naughty boy / girl flag, do it again you'll cop a time penalty. But only on those corners. The rest of the track is a free-for-all so don't worry about the lines, they're just to add a bit of colour to the place. Use as much of the place as you need to to get a pass done. Just don't lose a wheel off the car cos we'll throw the book at you for that, cos we're a bit low on funds for our next officials' soiree."

[GTRMagic]

KRE taking the heat off XTrac?
There was an issue with the shift mechanism aboard #35 yesterday too, and not a word whispered, let alone said

[Umai Naa]

The gremlin with the #35 car was mentioned at some point.

[Sandgroper]

Originally Posted by Mixer

Agree, Adderton is a ******** so maybe Garry will tolerate it.

Yeah this guy is FULL on and know what he wants 2 x Number 1 drivers.
Maybe he should have hired 2