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View Poll Results: best partnership ever
Jim Clark and Colin Chapman 18 29.03%
Michael Schumacher and Ross Brawn 20 32.26%
Mika Hakkinen and Ron Dennis 5 8.06%
Jackie Stewert and Ken Tyrell 9 14.52%
Ayrton Senna and Ron Dennis 8 12.90%
Nigel Mansell and Frank Williams 0 0%
Other. (Specify) 2 3.23%
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Old 24 Feb 2004, 21:12 (Ref:884487)   #1
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best partnership ever???

I was watching "Murray walkers f1 greats" last night and it hit me, What is the best partnership between a driver and mechanic/team boss/race engineer ever?
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Old 24 Feb 2004, 21:19 (Ref:884495)   #2
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Ithink Jackie and Ken. 3 WDC's in that time is great. But why not TGF and Ross? Because TGF's Car is by far the best!!!
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Old 24 Feb 2004, 21:23 (Ref:884499)   #3
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But wouldn't that strengthen the argument to have them as the best? Surely a strong combination would give themselves the best equipment possible (such as Clark and Chapman)?

In any case, Schuey has not always had the best car, yet Brawn's tactics and Michael's driving have always kept them in contention or thereabouts.

As for the poll, I can't decide at the mo, but shouldn't Lauda and Montezemelo be on there too?
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Old 24 Feb 2004, 21:26 (Ref:884504)   #4
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Mansell and Williams They certainly acheived a lot, but partnership might be a strong word

I went for Clark and Chapman. However the Tyrell one was close for me. The fact that it is so much more a team effort works against the current Schumacher-Brawn pairing. OK it was always a team effort, but before you could nail it to a principle designer and driver pair. With the excellent Ferrari lot we have now you'd really have to say Schumacher-Byrne-Brawn-Todt-Montezemolo.

There is a slight mix of roles up there from the team point of view. Engineers to team principles and some inbetween.

Other suggestions: Prost and Barnard? Brabham and Cooper? Lauda and Montezemolo?

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i thought of this while i was v bored. Thats why there are only 7 options and the 7th is other.
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As for the poll, I can't decide at the mo, but shouldn't Lauda and Montezemelo be on there too?
I thought so too, the change in the teams fortunes was dramatic. More so than this current Ferrari period. And as I mention above it can be nailed down to those two.
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Old 24 Feb 2004, 22:03 (Ref:884549)   #7
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What about Mario Andretti and Colin Chapman?
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Old 24 Feb 2004, 22:08 (Ref:884558)   #8
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Clark-Chapman, no doubt.
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Old 24 Feb 2004, 23:08 (Ref:884643)   #9
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Come on guys. How can it not be MS and RB? When has another partnership been more prolific?
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Old 24 Feb 2004, 23:15 (Ref:884657)   #10
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Come on guys. How can it not be MS and RB? When has another partnership been more prolific?
Who do you mean? Ross Brawn, Rory Byrne or Rubens Barrichello? More than just two main characters in this partnership, so for me it rules them out. Although doing it at more than one team is impressive.
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Who do you mean? Ross Brawn, Rory Byrne or Rubens Barrichello? More than just two main characters in this partnership, so for me it rules them out. Although doing it at more than one team is impressive.
Sorry, as per poll Ross Brawn. Like you say the fact that more than one team is involved makes it even more impressive.
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Old 25 Feb 2004, 00:16 (Ref:884722)   #13
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You made it too easy. Jim Clark, the finest driver ever to walk the face of the planet, and Colin Chapman, probably the most inventive brain ever to turn its attention towards Formula 1.

Just think, Jimmy would only have been sixty-eight this year...

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Clark - Chapman. They complimented each other so well. Schumacher - Brawn misses out for the above stated reason that Byrne and others had more to do with it, in my opinion. But despite that, they'd be second.
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Old 25 Feb 2004, 08:18 (Ref:884917)   #15
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Come on guys. How can it not be MS and RB? When has another partnership been more prolific?
Yes but that isn't really the point. There hasn't been that much to oppose them. There was in the other cases.

I went for Clark and Chapman.

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Old 25 Feb 2004, 09:34 (Ref:884978)   #16
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I would have thought Alain Prost along with Ron Dennis and Gordon Murray would have taken some beating.
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Old 25 Feb 2004, 09:41 (Ref:884980)   #17
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i dont have enough knowledge to make a decision about Jim Clark and Colin Chapman, so i went for
TGF and Brawn as thats the best of my era.
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Easily Clark and Chapman. They complimented each other so well they made winning look simple. They were boss-employer but they were also best of friends...
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Old 25 Feb 2004, 13:14 (Ref:885177)   #19
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Another Clark and Chapman vote for the reasons already mentioned as well as the fact that it wasn't just F1, they raced in Indy, F2 and touring cars as well. Such a shame that the modern F1 driver can't diversify in the same way.
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Old 25 Feb 2004, 13:31 (Ref:885192)   #20
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clark/chapman.....i don't know, i just can't seem to think that the other partnerships though good, and in some cases excellent, match up to the 'magic' of jimmy and colin....
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Old 25 Feb 2004, 22:02 (Ref:885605)   #21
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I'd go for TGF and Ross...they seem so powerful that it sometimes scares me.
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Yeah, gotta agree with 31.11% of the people, Michael and Ross are a very powerful unit. BUT, one of the things that makes this combo strong is Rubens Barrichello. He should have been brought into the equation.
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After recently seeing the Colin Chapman video "If You're Not Winning, You're Not Trying", the rapport, the warmth and the good grace and humour with with Chapman conducted himself in working with his two drivers Emmo and Ronnie Peterson is a cornerstone of a previous era, if nothing else.
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As much as i hate to admit it, cos even though i don't think he's clearly better than anyone else (he's just jad everything in his favour..always!)

It's gotta be Schu and Brawn....six titles? come on people that'll never be beat! Unless either Kimi or Alonso begin their quest with a first title this year!!
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