Chevron B19 21 23 cars

driftwood · 3 Apr 2006, 11:26 (Ref:1568919)

Does any one have factory lists of the chassis numbers for Chevron B19 21 23 cars

So far only Lola T280 cars have been discussed

Martin Krecji has 290 model numbers on his site

Chevron and Lola made similar amounts of cars with the evolution models over the years 71-75

Chevron went down the tune frame route (derived from the B16 car) until the monocoque car of the B26-whilst Lola had the monocoque from 1970 210/212 car onto the 290-298 version

Its probably true to say your either a Lola or Chevron man
what was the better car?
Race results can show 1 model -Championship may show another but how many drivers drove both makes?
any comments to be put forward

driftwood · 3 Apr 2006, 11:30 (Ref:1568923)

ive just listed the chevron thread and immediatly the pop up ad is for the chevron book!! SPOOKY or what??!!

**John Turner** · 3 Apr 2006, 13:37 (Ref:1569042)

I think it would be an excellent idea for someone to provide some lists of all these marque models you have mentioned for future insertion and development in the Chasssis History Archive. I have to say that I'd also love to see some definitive stuff about the B6/B8 series (and the B16), especially after talking to James Shryver at Donington, yesterday, about his Father's B8.

I am going to move this to the Motorsport History forum, though, for the moment.

zapparacing · 5 Apr 2006, 01:45 (Ref:1571038)

I dont know if this will help or not....but here is some info:

B16S-70-01 Ford FVC 1970 Gr.6 Chevron Cars (Redman) => Team Gunston ...=> Jo Siffert Automobiles Racing Ltd....=> Don Shead
B19-71-004 Ford FVC 1971 Gr.6 Worcester Racing Association Colin Pool => Richard Arnold (end 1989) Raced bby Colin Poolin historic races
B19-71-007 Ford FVC 1971 Gr.6 Red Rose Racing (J. Bridges)
B19-71-008 Ford FVC 1971 Gr.6 Red Rose Racing (John Hine)
B19-71-010 Ford FVC 1971 Gr.6 Worcestershire Racing Association (John Burton)
B19-71-011 1971 Gr.6 Kent Abrahamsson Raced by Abrahamsson in Supersports
B19-71-012 1971 Gr.6 Canon Cameras Racing (E.Swart)
B19-71-023 1971 Gr.6 Don Brooks by Brooks for sale
B19-71-034 1971 Gr.6 ~Tilmant
B19-71-070 1971 Gr.6 Jonas Qvarnström Raced by Qvarnström in Supersports
B19-71-124 1971 Gr.6 Helen Bashford Raced by Bashford in Supersports
B21-72-01 Ford FVC 1972 Gr.6 Willie Tuckett => Ember Racing (1973)
B21-72-02 Ford FVC 1972 Gr.6 Intertech Steering Wheel (Twaites)
B21-72-03 Ford FVC 1972 Gr.6 ~Martin Raymond
B21-72-07 Ford FVC 1972 Gr.6 Red Rose Racing (Juncadella)
B21-72-26 Ford FVC 1972 Gr.6 Martin Raymond
B21-72-29 Ford FVC 1972 Gr.6 Red Rose Montjuich Tergal
B21-72-32 Ford FVC 1972 Gr.6 Red Rose Racing
B21-72-45 1972 Gr.6 Peter Beckhauser Raced by Beckhauser in Supersports
B23-73-05 Ford 1973 Gr.6 KVG Racing (Grob)
B23-73-08 Ford 1973 Gr.6 Red Rose Racing (John Bridges)
B23-73-09 Ford 1973 Gr.6 Escuderia Monjuich (Juncadella, de Bagration?)
B23-73-10 Ford 1973 Gr.6 Ember Racing (Goodwin)
B23-73-12 Ford 1973 Gr.6 Red Rose Racing (Lepp)
B23-73-14 Ford 1973 Gr.6 Mauricio Marcotulli
B23-73-16 Ford 1973 Gr.6 (Motor Race Consultants)
B23-73-26 Ford 1973 Gr.6 Raymond (Peter Humble)

Having once owned a B16 and now a Lola T212, they're wonderful cars to drive and have absolutely nothing bad to say about them....(except a Ford four cam DFV would have been a nice experiment!!!)

zapparacing · 5 Apr 2006, 01:59 (Ref:1571040)

Here is the rest of the list starting with the B-5/6 which are pretty much the same as the B-8. Quick odd facts, if i recall correctly... The name Chevron came from the sign that showed two roads comming together outside of a local pub Bennett went to. the "B" in the Chassis numbers stood for Bridges for his financial contributions to the company. Also they only produced chassis numbers in multiples on 11.

B05-DBE01 BRM 1967 Gr.4 Green/Redman/Williams
B06-DBE03 BMW 1967 Gr.4 Arthur Moore
B06-DBE06 BMW 1967 Gr.4 John Bamford
B06-DBE08 BMW 1967 Gr.4 Chris Skeaping
B08-DBE32 1968 Gr.4 Trevor Twaites Peter Lee Champion of England by Twaites (1970), raced in Supersports by Lee
B08-DBE37 BMW Gr.4 Phil Silverstone => Tomy Evangelist => Robin Smith => Ed Burnell => Bob McGregor => Ray McGowan => Barry Samson => Pat Smith => Lem Tuckey => John Maycok...=> Alain Schlesinger/F (2000) Restored in 1990 by Roger Andreason.
B08-DBE71 BMW Gr.4 James Tangye
B08-DBE84 BMW Gr.4 Mike Knight
B08-DBE87 BMW Gr.4 Roger Heavens
B12-DBE01 Repco 1968 GT John Woolfe Racing => Cowin/J. Wilson ... => Detlef Vanselow
B16-DBE01 1969 Gr.5/6 Ken Walker
B16-DBE02 Ford Gr.5/6 John Bridges
B16-DBE04 Ford Gr.5/6 Chevron Cars => Brian Robinson
B16-DBE06 Ford Gr.5/6 Worcestershire Racing Asocciation (Burton)
B16-DBE07 Ford 1970 Gr.5/6 Red Rose Racing (J. Bridges)
B16-DBE08 Ford 1970 Gr.5/6 Willie Tuckett
B16-DBE09 BMW 1970 Gr.5/6 Koepchen Tuning
B16-DBE10 1970 Gr.5/6
B16-DBE14 Mazda 1970 Gr.5/6 Levis Int. Racing
B16-DBE19 Ford 1970 Gr.5/6 Eris Tondelli
B16-DBE26 BMW 1970 Gr.5/6 Chevron Racing Team
B16-DBE34 1970 Gr.5/6 Tilmant
B16S-70-01 Ford FVC 1970 Gr.6 Chevron Cars (Redman) => Team Gunston ...=> Jo Siffert Automobiles Racing Ltd....=> Don Shead
B19-71-004 Ford FVC 1971 Gr.6 Worcester Racing Association Colin Pool => Richard Arnold (end 1989) Raced bby Colin Poolin historic races
B19-71-007 Ford FVC 1971 Gr.6 Red Rose Racing (J. Bridges)
B19-71-008 Ford FVC 1971 Gr.6 Red Rose Racing (John Hine)
B19-71-010 Ford FVC 1971 Gr.6 Worcestershire Racing Association (John Burton)
B19-71-011 1971 Gr.6 Kent Abrahamsson Raced by Abrahamsson in Supersports
B19-71-012 1971 Gr.6 Canon Cameras Racing (E.Swart)
B19-71-023 1971 Gr.6 Don Brooks by Brooks for sale
B19-71-034 1971 Gr.6 ~Tilmant
B19-71-070 1971 Gr.6 Jonas Qvarnström Raced by Qvarnström in Supersports
B19-71-124 1971 Gr.6 Helen Bashford Raced by Bashford in Supersports
B21-72-01 Ford FVC 1972 Gr.6 Willie Tuckett => Ember Racing (1973)
B21-72-02 Ford FVC 1972 Gr.6 Intertech Steering Wheel (Twaites)
B21-72-03 Ford FVC 1972 Gr.6 ~Martin Raymond
B21-72-07 Ford FVC 1972 Gr.6 Red Rose Racing (Juncadella)
B21-72-26 Ford FVC 1972 Gr.6 Martin Raymond
B21-72-29 Ford FVC 1972 Gr.6 Red Rose Montjuich Tergal
B21-72-32 Ford FVC 1972 Gr.6 Red Rose Racing
B21-72-45 1972 Gr.6 Peter Beckhauser Raced by Beckhauser in Supersports
B23-73-05 Ford 1973 Gr.6 KVG Racing (Grob)
B23-73-08 Ford 1973 Gr.6 Red Rose Racing (John Bridges)
B23-73-09 Ford 1973 Gr.6 Escuderia Monjuich (Juncadella, de Bagration?)
B23-73-10 Ford 1973 Gr.6 Ember Racing (Goodwin)
B23-73-12 Ford 1973 Gr.6 Red Rose Racing (Lepp)
B23-73-14 Ford 1973 Gr.6 Mauricio Marcotulli
B23-73-16 Ford 1973 Gr.6 (Motor Race Consultants)
B23-73-26 Ford 1973 Gr.6 Raymond (Peter Humble)
B26-74-01 Ford 1974 Gr.6 John Lepp
B26-74-08 Ford 1974 Gr.6 Richard Piper
B26-74-12 1974 Gr.6 Richard Evans Raced by Evans in Supersports
B36-0010 1979 Gr.6 Georg Olbrich Raced by Olbrich in hill climbs, in 1991 some its parts used in his new car known as Rigol R 001. Maybe not original Chevron chassis.
B36-76-06 ROC 1976 Gr.6 Société R.O.C.

HOPE THAT HELPS

stein johnsen · 6 Apr 2006, 22:38 (Ref:1572653)

A few more cars from my research on Roger Heavens B 16

1970 B 16 /17 T.A.P
1970 B 16/027 J Siffert
1970 B 16/028 J Siffert BMW
1970 B 16/029 Dennis Dobie (Dart)
1971 B 16/035 Roger Heavens FVA
1971 B 16/036 J. Siffert

I hope this will be of help

Bryan Miller · 6 Apr 2006, 23:16 (Ref:1572671)

As nobody else has thanked either of you gentleman as yet , thank you very much , this is a fabulous start .

John Turner , do you wish to talk to these gents and see if they are happy to have them sent over to the chassis history section , very easy to do now .

I can add another Chevron B8 , DBE -065 , in Australia by April 1969.

Bryan.

**John Turner** · 7 Apr 2006, 10:17 (Ref:1572958)

I concur Bryan; a great start. However, we have now added B5/6/8 & 16 to the thread title. I don't think Drifty would mind the thread being moved but my thoughts would be to split the posts in accordance with the models. I suggest a B5/6/8 thread to include the one-off (?) B12 (that was a modified B8 wasn't it?); a B16 thread and then one with Drifty's original title. Any views, anyone? My memories of Chevron sports cars after the B19 are distinctly hazy and I note we also have B26 & 36 included.

allenbrown · 7 Apr 2006, 14:16 (Ref:1573155)

Hi guys

If we're going to use the data from the Chevron page on classiccars.com, the least we should do is credit the author. Really, we should be getting their permission or only using individual items of date - not the whole page so blatantly.

I know how I'd feel if someone used a page from OldRacingcars.com as a starting point for a thread.

As 'stein johnsen' has added data on the B16s, I can see value in starting in thread on those. Can 'stein johnsen' tell us the source for that data? We should also ask Martin Krejci to join in but only if he can see his copyright isn't being abused.

Allen

**John Turner** · 7 Apr 2006, 15:07 (Ref:1573205)

Thank you, Allen; a good spot! We must observe copyright law as well as give credit where it is due. Since we are at that point, do we have any solid information that we can add to the above info. Those lists are not complete; for example I understand from several sources that 44 B8s were constructed.

I certainly like the idea of giving a first shot to the B16, in my view, just about one of the prettiest sports racing cars ever built. Apologies also to Driftwood, whose thread we have somewhat commandeered.

driftwood · 8 Apr 2006, 23:58 (Ref:1574225)

Hi Guys
ive been away to europe and backhence the lack of response form me!!
thanks to Zappa and stein for info so far
If u want to start a marque then model thread that would be useful
I think keeping a titled thread going here makes it easier for people to surf and reply then perhaps info can then be placed into the marque/model pages after?
if im talking jibberish its cos its 1 am and ive just driven 5oo miles back from essen classic car show which is very large 7 or more halls worth of cars sadly only a handful of race cars its more classic road cars and many stalls selling parts for the restoration of road cars
I was hoping to see rosso bianco museum on my road trip but sadly its closed and sold to dutch museum onwer who is going to relocate all the acrs soon

Im sure Martin K would be happy to join in the thread and give any info
im not sure if he follows the 10 tenfs site maybe a mail to him and a few links will kindel his interest

driftwood · 9 Apr 2006, 00:03 (Ref:1574227)

At the essen show I also saw a book titled dijon 1000 km races 72-92??
had many lists results and fotos of the races with Gp 6 cars etc its form the same publisher as the euro 2 litre book and of course in that widely spoken language that Mr Chirac is so proud of!
So i guess its foto reading for us "Rosbeuf" peasants

**John Turner** · 9 Apr 2006, 10:27 (Ref:1574425)

No probs, Drifty. I can split out threads and posts whenever we have enough info on model types to move into the chassis forum. We can keep this thread going for all Chevron sports cars. Do we have enough on the B16 to move the appropriate posts into chassis forum, now?

driftwood · 9 Apr 2006, 11:44 (Ref:1574490)

Probably enough to start the chassis forum -i know there are many questions that can be raised from the comments listed plus other guys will have other cars to ask about when they see them at the tracks now the season has started!!

**John Turner** · 10 Apr 2006, 15:06 (Ref:1577687)

B16 specific thread started here:-

http://tentenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=81904

allenbrown · 10 Apr 2006, 16:28 (Ref:1577771)

A bit of B19 stuff found in Sport Auto's report on the 1971 300 km d'Auvergne (August 1971 p63-65).

Bridges B19-71/7
Hine B19-71/8
Burton B19-71/10
Swart B19-71/12

The Chevron book says 35 B19s built, all in 1971 (so chassis 1-10, 12, 14-21, 23-32 and 34-39?). All had 1790cc engines except for one with a 2000cc Abarth and one with a 3000cc BMW Alpina.

Allen

driftwood · 10 Apr 2006, 16:33 (Ref:1577775)

i think swart stil has his original b19 in usa

**John Turner** · 13 Apr 2006, 18:39 (Ref:1580611)

Quote:

Originally Posted by allenbrown

Hi guys

If we're going to use the data from the Chevron page on classiccars.com, the least we should do is credit the author. Really, we should be getting their permission or only using individual items of date - not the whole page so blatantly.

Allen

I have now received a reply from Rod at Classicscars who has kindly agreed that we may keep and develop the information posted in this thread which was taken from www.classicscars.com website. Please note that this permission only extends to the information already posted here.

fangio · 15 Apr 2006, 19:32 (Ref:1583017)

I used to own B19-17, which I raced in 1992/3 and possibly 1994.
When I went back to racing modern cars BPR/FIA-GT the car wasn't used for some years and I sold it in april 1998 to the UK (Simon Wayne).
It had a Richardson BDG and it was a great car to drive.

My moment of glory was beating Mr. B19 (Ed Swart) at Zandvoort in the SuperSports race!

Shouldn't have sold it............

allenbrown · 15 Apr 2006, 20:05 (Ref:1583041)

Thanks fangio

Do you recall any history of B19-17 before you had it?

Allen

fangio · 18 Apr 2006, 09:08 (Ref:1587439)

Quote:

Originally Posted by allenbrown

Thanks fangio

Do you recall any history of B19-17 before you had it?

Allen

Not Really, but I think it was in South Africa for some time, and then the story is that Stirling Moss bought it, thinking it was a B16. I guess he got his numbers switched.
When he found out is was not a B16 Coupe he sold it and I got it from Belgium. (Gerard Burggraf)

driftwood · 18 Apr 2006, 16:25 (Ref:1587757)

so did SM really think a b19 was a 16 shape car or was there mis description involved??

fangio · 18 Apr 2006, 22:21 (Ref:1588069)

Quote:

Originally Posted by driftwood

so did SM really think a b19 was a 16 shape car or was there mis description involved??

I think he wanted a coupe (B16) but just made a mistake and thought the B19 was the coupe.
Maybe I should give SM a call and ask him about this.

Nordic · 19 Apr 2006, 18:39 (Ref:1588974)

chevron

I saw Dave Garrnet use this on the hills in the late 70's, it was crashed in Jersey in 78 and never made it to Gursney, but made it to Val Des Terres the following year.

He was using it in 77 as well, he set the class hill record that year that remained unbroken for a couple of seasons

Not sure what type it is as the front does not seem to match any other type.

**John Turner** · 14 May 2006, 17:33 (Ref:1609707)

B19 thread now in the Chassis Archive:-

http://tentenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=83395

It is the amalgamation of some of the posts here and a very old thread which I recently found!

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