[Rules] Future Rule Changes

[Paradise City]

Sparklers and trumpets sticking out of the back these cars.

Like some weird Halloween orchestra on wheels.

[wolfhound]

And we still have that stupid double points for the last race.

WILL SOMEBODY PLEASE GET RID OF IT.



They did sweet #£<!< all about cost saving as well.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/114551

[marcel82]

Originally Posted by Adam43

Fans complain F1 is rubbish. Give the fans what they ask for again to try and make them happy. Standing starts are popular. Sparks are popular.

Perhaps stop asking for things?

I'd rather have full blown rolling starts for every GP. racing isn't about cars stopping to start.

[Adam43]

Originally Posted by wolfhound

And we still have that stupid double points for the last race.

WILL SOMEBODY PLEASE GET RID OF IT.



They did sweet #£<!< all about cost saving as well.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/114551

Are double points even worse than everything else you don't like?

I think it's a terrible idea.

[Paradise City]

I wasn't actually aware that the F1 cars didn't sparkle until they starting talking about 'bringing back' the sparks.

On that subject, I'd be none the wiser about the noise issue either if they didn't start going on about the need to ramp up the noise.

I'm talking as someone who attends a GP once every year or two which is probably about representative of the frequency the average GP attendee attends a race.

[wolfhound]

They are coming up with stupid little rule changes that avoid the fundamental problems it reminds me of when Rome burns.

The cost saving measures are not cost saving they just stop teams doing something and the rich teams will find some other means to spend money to make cars go faster as has always been the case.

I fear double points could make farce out of the championship final. The other part is the winner of Abu Dhabi getting double the points for winning at Monaco, SPa or Suzuka just does not do those venues justice.

[Sodemo]

Don't forget the lasers. Must have lasers, no discos have them any more....

[FordCosworthPanoz]

Standing restarts will create more crashe... ...I mean excitement. With F1's plummeting global viewing figures and financial crisis the FIA and Bernie are looking for just about any band-aid they can find.

[bjohnsonsmith]

Originally Posted by FordCosworthPanoz

Standing restarts will create more crashe... ...I mean excitement. With F1's plummeting global viewing figures and financial crisis the FIA and Bernie are looking for just about any band-aid they can find.

Double file rolling restarts, that's the way to go and only on street circuits; Monaco would be awesome.

[Lanky Turtle]

If they would at least bunch up for restarts like Indycar does I think it would be an improvement.

As it is now, by the time the cars cross the line for restarts, there is usually a second or 2 between each position.

[Biscuits In A Red Bull]

Standing restarts are okay, but my issue is that we'll likely get 5 laps of racing during the entire Monaco Grand Prix. But it should give us a good contrast of a race start WITH Maldonado and a race start WITHOUT Maldonado at least 3 times during the 2015 season, if Maldonado is indeed on the grid.

[Mike E]

Originally Posted by Sodemo

Don't forget the lasers. Must have lasers, no discos have them any more....

All pit garages will have a mirror ball as well, and team managers must wear heavily flared trousers and have massive sideburns.

[ScotsBrutesFan]

Standing restarts:
If I understand the procedure, the safety car is to pull in and then drivers take the grid positions with an immediate green light sequence (as in the start of the race at the end of the formation lap)....

a: Given they will be forming onto the grid under yellow flags until the lights go green, how do the Marshals indicate a stalled car, or how does Whiting indicate an aborted start for any other reason?

b: It's raining and the race started behind the safety car because its too dangerous for a standing start? The safety car comes in because it's now judged safe enough to race... does the safety car have to stay out until it's safe to do a standing start?

c: the incident which caused the safety car has bumped oil all over one of the grid slots on the main straight. How fair on the driver in that position who then has to do a standing start knee deep in oil dry?

Someone really does need to sit down and actually think this through.

[wolfhound]

Originally Posted by ScotsBrutesFan

Standing restarts:
If I understand the procedure, the safety car is to pull in and then drivers take the grid positions with an immediate green light sequence (as in the start of the race at the end of the formation lap)....

a: Given they will be forming onto the grid under yellow flags until the lights go green, how do the Marshals indicate a stalled car, or how does Whiting indicate an aborted start for any other reason?

b: It's raining and the race started behind the safety car because its too dangerous for a standing start? The safety car comes in because it's now judged safe enough to race... does the safety car have to stay out until it's safe to do a standing start?

c: the incident which caused the safety car has bumped oil all over one of the grid slots on the main straight. How fair on the driver in that position who then has to do a standing start knee deep in oil dry?

Someone really does need to sit down and actually think this through.

I suspect this another idea that has not been fully thought through. It is like a lot of recent knee jerk rule changes as panic sets and nobody has the power to make proper decisions (including Bernie but he has lost the plot and is only focused on $$$$$$$$).

[broadrun96]

How about it's a new proposal and thus subject to all that kind of discussion?? Did they say we are starting this right now??

[ScotsBrutesFan]

It's allegedly been agreed by the teams and Bernie, and will go before the next WMC for rubber stamping. That rubber stamp means it will happen next season.

[321Go]

The standing re-start rule will be at the racing directors (Charlie Whiting) discretion. So not compulsory for every re-start.

[Paradise City]

No source, it ain't happenin' guys.

[Puhoon]

Originally Posted by 321Go

The standing re-start rule will be at the racing directors (Charlie Whiting) discretion. So not compulsory for every re-start.

That's even worse. So if we have a boring Merc 1-2 Whiting will put in a standing re-start to spice up the race, otherwise a normal flying start? That's WWE-tier tampering of the race.

[wnut]

Originally Posted by Paradise City

No source, it ain't happenin' guys.

I hope you're right!

Stupid, stupid, stupid idea!

[bjohnsonsmith]

Originally Posted by Paradise City

No source, it ain't happenin' guys.

You never know...

[wolfhound]

Is what you are looking for?
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/114529

Also Lauda, Vettel and Brundle have added their questions to the restart procedure. It seems like this one was a great idea at the time but nobody thought it through at th F1 commission meeting.

http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns28301.html

[wnut]

Originally Posted by wolfhound

Is what you are looking for?
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/114529

Also Lauda, Vettel and Brundle have added their questions to the restart procedure. It seems like this one was a great idea at the time but nobody thought it through at th F1 commission meeting.

http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns28301.html

I am really beginning to wonder how much booze gets drunk at the F1 commission meetings.

[Trev Campbell]

These guys are really starting to get into the realm of some of Australia's (And I assume the World's) court judges. Making decisions and verdicts that have no basis in reailty, that leave people wondering what planet these guys live on.

[Rudernst]

standing restarts

you are getting this all wrong:

the standing restart WILL HAVE TO BE DONE IN REVERSE GEAR !!
each driver to compete ONE FULL LAP IN REVERSE against the normal direction of the circuit
after crossing the finish line, drivers are allowed to select all forward gear again.
race distance remains unaltered, meaning that the reverse lap counts towards distance travelled

this is all beeing done to improve "The Show".
in time the fans will understand and approve





Rudolf