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16 Jul 2003, 07:33 (Ref:662542)
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Pug 406's back in the BTCC
It's reported in Motorsport news that the VLR Peugeot 406's will make a return to the BTCC, possibly as early as the penultimate race this year.
Clio team Griffin Motorsport have bought two cars and will be udertaking a full Independents Cup campaign in 2004, with team boss Julian Griffin driving one of them. He aims to do a 'very reasonable deal' for an up and coming talent on the 2nd car and is open to approaches. |
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16 Jul 2003, 09:32 (Ref:662617)
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That's really good to see independent interest already for 2004. Don't think we'll see them this year but will they still be competitive next year?
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16 Jul 2003, 11:16 (Ref:662681)
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they were never competitive
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16 Jul 2003, 11:49 (Ref:662709)
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The original 406 was better
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16 Jul 2003, 12:11 (Ref:662722)
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Lee- Welcome to the forum!
I have a question for you. Which car in your BTCC career sounded the best? |
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16 Jul 2003, 12:15 (Ref:662724)
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I think they'll really struggle unless they somehow find a young superstar for the second car. The 406s ar quite outdated,a dn I'm sure the 307s will be quicker by next season. Plus there'll probably be several independantly ran ETCC-spec cars to face.
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16 Jul 2003, 12:23 (Ref:662736)
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I don't think they'll do that well, but it'll be great to have more cars, especially as the 406 looks great, even if it isn't competative!
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16 Jul 2003, 14:07 (Ref:662850)
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They should've gone for the Lexus!
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16 Jul 2003, 14:24 (Ref:662865)
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Not the Lexuses (Lexi?) again... where are they now? I know one of the 406s is being raced by Moen in the STCC but not having the best of luck at the moment. I just hope that if this plan comes to fruition the cars will be competitive. On the whole, lap times this year seem to be a bit slower than 2002 (I'm just looking at qualifying times from Thruxton and Croft) so maybe they'll have a chance?
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16 Jul 2003, 14:51 (Ref:662894)
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Suspect the lap times being slower (if they are??) is down to the change to Dunlop rubber so this would not help the 406.
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16 Jul 2003, 15:14 (Ref:662923)
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WOW, glad to see those cars still have owners lol
Looking forward to seeing them out on track...i just hope this isnt a Lexus idea where only 1 car will race then the team runs out of money etc. |
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16 Jul 2003, 15:54 (Ref:662960)
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I met Julian last season and think it's great that we are going to see another independent team next year, the 406's may not be the class of the field but Dan did win the indie championship in one. I wish Julian, Michelle and everyone at Team Griffin the best of luck, the 406's will look great with elephants on them!!
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16 Jul 2003, 15:59 (Ref:662965)
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Potential PR disaster for VLR if those cars go out and beat the 307's. Doubt they will but it would be ironic. Good to see the grid boosted again and good to see that the Clio cup is working as a feeder series.
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16 Jul 2003, 18:08 (Ref:663082)
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I am predicting that the 406's will be competitive in the Independants Cup. Why? well indie cup leader is Rob Collard, he is driving the same car that Barwell had last year, a car which the 406's beat to the independants cup. So with them aiming to be competitive in terms of the independants cup, I wouldn't write them off especially if they get a half decent second driver! I heard a possibility of Roger Moen even racing at Donington (when the cars are expected out) as part of the deal.
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16 Jul 2003, 18:14 (Ref:663097)
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I don't read too mcuh into Rob Collard's car being ex-Barwell. Rob is a far better driver than Tom Childish or Aaron Slightly-too-many-wheels. And Dan and Carl are arguably better than Roger Moen, obviously the jury will be out on Julian Griffin himself.
JIM Griffin??? Who?? Last edited by BootsOntheSide; 16 Jul 2003 at 18:16. |
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16 Jul 2003, 18:28 (Ref:663118)
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What great news, Julian and Michelle a one of the nicest people I've met and they will be a welcome addition to the BTCC.
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16 Jul 2003, 18:29 (Ref:663119)
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Actually on many tracks the cars are quicker than last year on their Dunlop's -Mullers Mondello pole was a second quicker
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Julian Griffin - Minister Engines Driver of the Year in the 2001 Ford Fiesta Championship. |
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16 Jul 2003, 20:34 (Ref:663272)
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Always good to see more cars on the grids and more drivers aspiring to the BTCC.
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17 Jul 2003, 08:03 (Ref:663639)
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He aims to do a 'very reasonable deal' for an up and coming talent on the 2nd car and is open to approaches.
__________________ mmmmmm how many times have i heard that, well lets hope it is an up and coming driver (oh and i hope you have some money too otherwise forget it!!) looking with interest - watch this space |
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17 Jul 2003, 14:40 (Ref:663959)
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just been playing around
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17 Jul 2003, 18:05 (Ref:664167)
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That's interesting..Carl Breeze isn't switching teams again is he ?!
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17 Jul 2003, 19:19 (Ref:664243)
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your so funny!!!!
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