[WEC] LMP Future Regulations (was Le Mans EVO rules - now hypercar rules)

[joeb]

Originally Posted by CTD

Explanatory video from FIA/ACO:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01eWObrfgLk

Honestly, not very good for knowledgable fans, but good for the casual I assume.

Automotive fashion design was how they explained lmdh. :ROFL:

[LC2guy]

Good ( for road cars ) & Bad ( for proper motorsport ) News;

https://news.sky.com/story/new-elect...nutes-12192253

[LC2guy]

Or put another way, Good ( for the planet ) & Bad ( for a Dinosaur like me who likes loud racing cars ..... )

[GT6]

i suspect if you tried to charge that battery at home the power drain would blew the grid. pretty sure a five amp plug would not be much use

[Adam43]

Most likely you don’t need it to charge in five minutes at home.

[GT6]

Originally Posted by Adam43

Most likely you don’t need it to charge in five minutes at home.

If you did i think your smart meter would catch fire at the very least

[Adam43]

Imagine if that is developed and becomes a thing. People would go from cars that need to be driven to somewhere to be “recharged” to ones where you can still “fill up” quickly when away from home and can also have the convenience of “filling up”, albeit at a slower rate, at home.

Of course some way to go, but would be a nice feature for us.

I’ve found the recharging at home to be one of the advantages of electric cars. That and the drive train which is a pleasure to use from a day to day point of view.

[Sodemo]

My question about the batteries are more a reliability and cost thing. Yep its great they are faster to charge, but what is their capacity, how reliable are they and what do they cost relative to the current used? If they die/need replacing after a year then its not great.

[helgi]

Nothing displaces a 50L petrol tank. It doesn't need a 300 kW line to be filled. And you can wash your hands in it. Not mentioning all other exciting things you can do with it. By the way, how much more than 50% of electricity is still produced with fossils (new coal station in Germany?)? While there's no TOCAMACs all this "green" electricity is a pure politicans nonsense, not mentioning the worse. And electrofans do not care about racing - FE is a great example.

[Mike E]

Oreca and Red Bull Advanced Technologies to develop spec chassis for hydrogen class.

Moan groan spec components etc but this probably makes good sense. Times are tough and having a specialised chassis with a standard hydrogen tank will make it easier to get this off the ground.

http://www.dailysportscar.com/2021/0...s-chassis.html

[joeb]

Originally Posted by Mike E

Oreca and Red Bull Advanced Technologies to develop spec chassis for hydrogen class.



Moan groan spec components etc but this probably makes good sense. Times are tough and having a specialised chassis with a standard hydrogen tank will make it easier to get this off the ground.



http://www.dailysportscar.com/2021/0...s-chassis.html

When I first saw the headline I was thinking that the powertrain was being developed as well, and then thought what's the point? But it appears that this chassis will just be the vessel for people to develop their own hydrogen power plants?

[deggis]

Originally Posted by joeb

When I first saw the headline I was thinking that the powertrain was being developed as well, and then thought what's the point? But it appears that this chassis will just be the vessel for people to develop their own hydrogen power plants?

It sounds like the Formula E master plan but for hydrogen, so free powertrain but everything else spec.

[Bcarr6]

So, with Acura announced for IMSA LMDH in 2023, but with both their current factory teams very clear in their Le Mans ambition, we could be looking at a pretty breathtaking LMH Le Mans 24hr entry:

Making some assumptions here, but potentially mad

Toyota LMH
Toyota LMH
Glickenhaus LMH
Glickenhaus LMH
Peugeot LMH
Peogeot LMH
Acura LMDH
Acura LMDH
Audi LMDH
Audi LMDH
Porsche LMDH
Porsche LMDH

[ascarracinguk]

Originally Posted by Bcarr6

So, with Acura announced for IMSA LMDH in 2023, but with both their current factory teams very clear in their Le Mans ambition, we could be looking at a pretty breathtaking LMH Le Mans 24hr entry:

Making some assumptions here, but potentially mad

Toyota LMH
Toyota LMH
Glickenhaus LMH
Glickenhaus LMH
Peugeot LMH
Peogeot LMH
Acura LMDH
Acura LMDH
Audi LMDH
Audi LMDH
Porsche LMDH
Porsche LMDH

not confirmed but id be surprised if GM, Mazda and Kolles werent on that list if they continued to race on in LMH/ LMDh

[Mike E]

LMH hybrid minimum weight increased to 1040kg as part of BoP

http://www.dailysportscar.com/2021/0...-one-2021.html

[canaglia]

nothing strange, I won't be surprised to see toyota close to 1050kg and glickenhaus <1030kg because of bop... the real question mark will be the weight of alpine R13.

[FIRE]

Originally Posted by Bcarr6

So, with Acura announced for IMSA LMDH in 2023, but with both their current factory teams very clear in their Le Mans ambition, we could be looking at a pretty breathtaking LMH Le Mans 24hr entry:

Making some assumptions here, but potentially mad

Toyota LMH
Toyota LMH
Glickenhaus LMH
Glickenhaus LMH
Peugeot LMH
Peogeot LMH
Acura LMDH
Acura LMDH
Audi LMDH
Audi LMDH
Porsche LMDH
Porsche LMDH

Plus hopefully some customer cars.

[Mike E]

Originally Posted by FIRE

Plus hopefully some customer cars.

I wouldn't be too surprised if all the Acuras, Porsches and Audis were customer cars, with some factory contracted drivers, like they do in GT3.

[canaglia]

I expect to see mainly semi-backed teams like WRT for audi or WTR/MSR for acura.

[Sodemo]

It’s a bit of a shame the mandatory 4 banger rule. Would have been nice to have some variety like a straight 5/6 or a V6 option.

[Mike E]

Originally Posted by Sodemo

It’s a bit of a shame the mandatory 4 banger rule. Would have been nice to have some variety like a straight 5/6 or a V6 option.

?

[Sodemo]

Originally Posted by Mike E

?

There isn't a mandatory rule which states engines must be a 4-cylinder?

[canaglia]

Originally Posted by Sodemo

There isn't a mandatory rule which states engines must be a 4-cylinder?

only in gt500...

[Mike E]

Originally Posted by Sodemo

There isn't a mandatory rule which states engines must be a 4-cylinder?

The LMH and LMDH engines announced so far are V6 and V8.
There was some speculation that Audi might use their DTM 4 cylinder.

[Sodemo]

OK maybe I got mixed up. Can someone tell me what the engine rules are then please? Or link me to somewhere as I googled it and tried about 4 pages, lots of regulations stuff, but nothing about engines.

Is the Toyota a V6?