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Old 21 Nov 2017, 21:12 (Ref:3782068)   #796
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Agreed, click bait is one of the dumbest statements that have been used in recent years. Like crmalcolm says, it's literally what keeps online news sites alive. No clicks = no visits = no ads = no money = goodnight.
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Old 21 Nov 2017, 22:43 (Ref:3782090)   #797
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and isn't every publicised story on the internet 'click bait'? - Or do the media outlets not want people to visit their pages?
In my opinion, absolutely not and people know the difference. Having an appropriate and catchy headline is productive to pull viewers in, but there clearly is a category that goes beyond. Headlines such as "Man runs into childhood sweetheart, what happens next is stunning!" is a modern example.

To use a food analogy... All candy is food, but not all food is candy. Same goes for headlines (food) and clickbait (candy).

Motorsports sites are not immune to "clickbait" types of headlines. Especially when it comes to reporting rumors.

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Old 22 Nov 2017, 01:51 (Ref:3782108)   #798
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Meanwhile,

Giovinazzi still in the frame at Sauber with a possible hint of Alfa:
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/s...umours-980978/

Sirotkin now in the frame for Williams? Seems strange to give him the Abu Dhabi test if it is a one-off and not a measuring stick for Kubica/straight shootout:

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/s...e-test-981207/
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Old 22 Nov 2017, 03:35 (Ref:3782119)   #799
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Dismissing the story as Fake News is a bit much at the moment, and isn't every publicised story on the internet 'click bait'? - Or do the media outlets not want people to visit their pages?
Did you read my post?? Here it is again.

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Just read those links above. So... an announcement WILL be made during the Abu Dhabi GP??

There will be no announcement at this weekends GP. Fake news.

Click bait.

Even though Kubica is believed to be the front runner for the Williams seat, the negotiations continue. Expect an announcement after season's end, or even early into the new year. Will it be Kubica? Or someone else? Or both?
Was simply pointing out that the reports stating that announcement WILL be made this weekend is fake news. Where did I say Kubica has not signed with Williams???? I even stated Kubica is believed to be the front runner for the Williams seat. But wouldn't expect an announcement until seasons end or early next year.

Whoever Williams decide on, be it Robert Kubica, or Bob Kubica or that other talented driver Robbie Kubica, I hope they make the right choice.
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Old 22 Nov 2017, 05:13 (Ref:3782131)   #800
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In my opinion, absolutely not and people know the difference. Having an appropriate and catchy headline is productive to pull viewers in, but there clearly is a category that goes beyond. Headlines such as "Man runs into childhood sweetheart, what happens next is stunning!" is a modern example.

To use a food analogy... All candy is food, but not all food is candy. Same goes for headlines (food) and clickbait (candy).

Motorsports sites are not immune to "clickbait" types of headlines. Especially when it comes to reporting rumors.

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I agree entirely that there are misleading headlines, which lead a media consumer along a path where the results are not what they may expect.
If that is referred to as 'clickbait' in terms of it being a negative term - then I don't feel that is the case with the articles being published.

The RTL headline is that Kubica will drive for Williams in 2018. Something that may be true, and in the article the reasoning for making this claim is given. - Therefore (IMO) not fake news or clickbaiting.

The Sportowe Fakty headline is that Kubica is sure to return - a beautiful story. Again, something that may be true, and so not a clickbait or fake news.
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Old 22 Nov 2017, 05:18 (Ref:3782133)   #801
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Was simply pointing out that the reports stating that announcement WILL be made this weekend is fake news.
But that is not what the reports say.

RTL make no indication on when an announcement will be made.

Sportowe Fakty do go slightly further, but having asked a Polish colleague what the report says (as opposed to relying on a translate service) he says that - the article mentions a 'rumour' that the contract announcement will be made during the weekend. Hardly 'Fake News' as you dismiss it, and more a factually correct report of rumours that are circulating the paddock.
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But that is not what the reports say.
O'reillly. Have a look at the screenshot below when translated to English.



According to a Polish colleague (Bobby), it's exactly as the English translation says.

"Experts expect that the British will announce it during the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix."

Not sure who Sportowe-Fake-ty's experts are, but clearly it's fake news.

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Old 22 Nov 2017, 13:11 (Ref:3782198)   #803
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Alright Enough

It's clear that something will be announced by Williams sooner or later. Whether it is Kubica or whether it's this weekend that is a speculation point depending on which media outlet you read.

Lets just accept that something is going to happen. Speculate on that.

But lets not go to war on each other just because you happen to read something different from another member.

Now a final warning across the forums to all members, when something is announced if I or any of the Mods see an "I told you so" post there will be action taken.

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Old 22 Nov 2017, 14:18 (Ref:3782214)   #804
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Kubica will drive for Williams at Abu Dhabi. Official confirmation soon.
Williams have finally made the confirmation that he will drive in the tests. A couple of weeks after the media seemed to know this was the case.

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Not taking anything away from Kubica's recovery to get to where he is now. But you do have to wonder how much of that 45% is goodwill/sympathy, how much is reliving his past success and how much is genuinely he's the right man for the job.
Williams seem to be giving him more than just good will.
Stroll (with all his financial influence) and Sirotkin are getting a half-day each.
Kubica is getting two half-days. The description of why is given as:
'Lance, as confirmed race driver for 2018, Robert with his huge experience and Sergey as a very promising young talent in F1'

It seems they value his input into the team more than their current driver. And if they were assessing potential rivals for a seat, surely they would give Sirotkin an equal chance?
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Old 22 Nov 2017, 15:36 (Ref:3782225)   #805
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Sirotkin, there's a surprise, what racing has he done recently?
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Sirotkin, there's a surprise, what racing has he done recently?
I'm not sure - but given the fact that he was backed by Russian investors for F1 a few years ago, and has still not progressed beyond Reserve Driver status (even behind Plamer), then it all points to Kubica being the focus for Williams.
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sad to say, but wouldnt surprise me at all if Williams are just trying to get money from every potential candidate via some sort of ride share arrangement for this seat.

also i am secretly harboring a suspicion that it will once again be Massa on the grid come OZ. consecutive three time retiree has got to a record worth striving for!
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Sirotkin, there's a surprise, what racing has he done recently?
He's done 1 round of F2, along with racing in this year's Le Mans 24 Hours.
Also done a couple of Friday outings for Renault?
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sad to say, but wouldnt surprise me at all if Williams are just trying to get money from every potential candidate via some sort of ride share arrangement for this seat.

also i am secretly harboring a suspicion that it will once again be Massa on the grid come OZ. consecutive three time retiree has got to a record worth striving for!
Massa would be much better than any of the proposed candidates.

I suspect that airing his frustration about Williams' complete lack of development during the season lead to his current "retirement".

Was the lack of development as a result of the car being so far off what Paddy Lowe believed was necessary, that it just wasn't worth the bother?
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Massa would be much better than any of the proposed candidates.

I suspect that airing his frustration about Williams' complete lack of development during the season lead to his current "retirement".

Was the lack of development as a result of the car being so far off what Paddy Lowe believed was necessary, that it just wasn't worth the bother?
Well paddy is now part of the Williams malaise but yes you are correct sir...this team we used to love is not the same team we used to love.

Probs I have been drinking but for real Williams is wrong now. Cross threads but I think this owner picked a business successor over a dreamer.
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