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Old 7 Jul 2007, 20:31 (Ref:1957073)   #1
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Nextel Cup = Sprint Cup Series

Aside from NASCAR being dumb enough to change the sponsor name again (for money of ofcourse.)
Nextal has fully been absorbed by Sprint and the press conference today has confirmed it is now the SPRINT CUP SERIES
What The FUNNYBONE?
USAC runs Sprint cars, and sprint cars run in New Zealand and Australia...
now we have Sprint Cup cars? this racing nomenclature moronicy by Brian Chubbycheeks France is just a blakc eye for American racing integrity never mind the US money grubbing appearnace.
couldn't they simply call it the the Nascar Cup Series sponsored by Sprint...this way you can change it all you like but the Cup is the CUP

i suppose it is Winston/Nextel Cup regardless (a rose by any other name...)
but come on
Sprint car racing is big wheels! big power! small single seaters engine infront
on dirt or pavement
NA$CAR $PRINT CUP $ERIE$ is ridiculous...
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Old 7 Jul 2007, 20:36 (Ref:1957074)   #2
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It's just a 'Cup' car to me


I do agree it sounds silly though, so I'm not going to see Nextel Cup next year, I'm going to see Sprint Cup, yeh awesome...

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Well, the sponsor is now Sprint ... the races aren't sprints and they aren't sprint cars but it's not that confusing.

And calling it NA$CAR ... well, all series are commerical (OK, not as WWE style engineered as them) so you might as well talk about CCW$, IndyCar $€ries, Formula On€, U$AC, V8 $up€rcars, Briti$h GT, World Touring Car Champion$hip, GP2 $eries ETC.
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Old 7 Jul 2007, 21:06 (Ref:1957096)   #4
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Aside from NASCAR being dumb enough to change the sponsor name again (for money of ofcourse.)
Oh my God! Sponsorship and money, who could ever have thought the two were related?!? NASCAR should be ashamed and stop this heinous act immediately?!?



Sprint Cup, hmmm....sounds ridiculous. It does not sound very prestigious does it? But who cares ultimately, nothing else will change.
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Old 7 Jul 2007, 21:21 (Ref:1957108)   #5
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Did the other telecom companies who are involved in NASCAR allow Nextel to change to Sprint?
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Oh no. Terrible terrible news. As I understand it Sprint refers to a telecommunications sponsor not the type of racing or the cars. Confusion will reign. How could they let this happen? The racing will never be the same again. I must ring someone to tell them.

I bet ChampCar would flat refuse to do such a thing if offered that much money, or even a tenth of it.
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Old 8 Jul 2007, 04:56 (Ref:1957264)   #7
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The sponsorship deal should be retooled a bit. Instead of Sprint being the title sponsor for the NASCAR Cup championship, i.e. the Sprint Cup, the company should be the presenting sponsor for the championship, i.e. the Sprint for the NASCAR Cup. It makes more sense, and it's a much more clever marketing tool.
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Old 8 Jul 2007, 06:33 (Ref:1957282)   #8
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Thanks Fish flake...
i didn't think there would be mass confusion from this board...but i can imagine casual reporters will have no idea..
they can't even tell ARCA from NASCAR
the money thing i was poking fun at, yes I know they all do it for a profit, but if you ever have gone sprint car racing, some do it for the love of the racing... track owners and promoters and drivers, and USAC doesn't really have sponsors for the big cars do they? that's real Sprint racing...
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Old 8 Jul 2007, 22:01 (Ref:1957996)   #10
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Thanks Fish flake...
i didn't think there would be mass confusion from this board...but i can imagine casual reporters will have no idea..
they can't even tell ARCA from NASCAR
the money thing i was poking fun at, yes I know they all do it for a profit, but if you ever have gone sprint car racing, some do it for the love of the racing... track owners and promoters and drivers, and USAC doesn't really have sponsors for the big cars do they? that's real Sprint racing...
could you then deduce from this that the USAC Sprint Car racing guys will benefit greatly from this change of Sponsor's title.

It's all because Nextel is rebranding as Sprint, and since they have multi-year deal to brand NASCAR, it makese sense for them to demand the change.

It's us petrolheads that will shout "hey what's going on?" because we know that Sprint cars are not Cup cars. But they are next year!!!!

Now, devils advocate here.... if it were the other way around, I bet NASCAR's lawyers would be circling over USAC for using "their" name.

Or am I being crazy..........

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Old 9 Jul 2007, 02:18 (Ref:1958100)   #11
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right on the money
and next the Busch series will go flat..
the Nascar GrandNational "Samsung" series?
true they are called "Nascars" everywhere any way and Sprints are sprints
The selling of souls and such is really such a let down to me.
could Formula 1 every be called the F "ING" 1 Championship (wait that looks funny...i meant ING bank...) or Formula 1 Allianz WorldChampion ship
or worse the 24 hours of Air France at Lemans ?!!?! arrrgh!
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and next the Busch series will go flat..
NASCAR has been looking for a new sponsor for the Busch Series for some time now.
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Old 10 Jul 2007, 01:08 (Ref:1959186)   #13
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yes i meant a pun in a way
The sponsor they are looking for is the one with cash naturally not the one with roots or even one who gives one flip for the fans, or the racing....
Craftsman tools for the truck I hope is a relationship that will never go away, totally , the identity they have with tough truck s is so solid now...
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The Grand National series is in a tight spot. Anheuser-Busch pulled their sponsorship of the series because they wanted to concentrate their marketing dollars on the Budweiser brand, particularly with Dale Earnhardt Jr. as their pitchman. Budweiser is A-B's flagship "premium" brand, while Busch is its downmarket label. As NASCAR's audience has become more upscale, they want to enhance the visibility of the product which they believe to have a more esteemed consumer image. A-B wanted better, and NASCAR probably wanted better as well.

On the other hand, Craftsman tools consistantly rate as having the highest product quality of not just tools, but all consumer goods put together. It was a coup for NASCAR to secure such a highly-regarded name as the backer for their fledgling truck series, and the quick success of that series is likely owed in large part to that brand association. The "Tough Trucks" image fits perfectly with Craftsman's reputation as providing top-quality tools fit for the most demanding of jobs, yet priced for the everyman.

NASCAR wants an esteemed title sponsor for the Grand National series, but at the same time, Sprint doesn't want to be outdone, while a lot of companies don't want to put their name on a "second-tier" division. I'd be highly surprised if Wal-Mart, after decades of shying away from sports sponsorship, would settle for second billing. Samsung might be an ambitious bidder, but they, and Korean manufacturers in general, are not held in very high regard by the American marketplace; plus, NASCAR would be wise to avoid instigating yet another flurry of lawsuits between them and other telecom companies. I would suggest that Kellogg's, who appear to the way out at Hendrick once Junior and Bud arrive at the end of the year, would make a good title sponsor, but there has been nothing from that camp through all this.
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NASCAR has been looking for a new sponsor for the Busch Series for some time now.
I read (at Jayski?) Subway is a strong candidate.
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