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Old 17 Aug 2004, 11:29 (Ref:1069166)   #1
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minimangler should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
who are the top 10 sportscar drivers in the world?

i know its edifficult to chose, but do your best!
1.Tom Kristensen
2.Jamie Davies
3.Andy Wallace
4.Allan Mcnish
5.Stephane Ortelli
6.Matteo Bobbi
7.Thomas Enge
8.Frank Beila
9.Guy Smith
10.Marc Lieb
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Old 17 Aug 2004, 14:05 (Ref:1069336)   #2
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Of current drivers (and with kind of a prototype bias 'cos I get a little more excited about prototypes than GTs)

Tom Kristensen
Allan McNish
David Brabham
JJ Lehto
James Weaver
Sascha Maassen
Andy Wallace
Emanuele Pirro
Johnny Herbert
Dindo Capello

If he was getting enough mileage these days, Stefan Johansson would be on/very near the list. He's not lost it.

Up-and-coming - Robin Liddell, Pat Long, Marc Lieb, Lucas Luhr.

If you asked me the same question in 12 months I'd love to be able to put Robbie Kerr on the list - one stunning performance doesn't get you on the list though.
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Old 17 Aug 2004, 14:26 (Ref:1069353)   #3
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jase should be qualifying in the top 10 on the gridjase should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
I certainly wouldnt put Jamie Davies above Andy Wallace hat high minimangler and Robin Lidell has been driving Porsches for ages.
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Old 17 Aug 2004, 14:32 (Ref:1069357)   #4
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minimangler should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
id forgotten anout david brabham
yep, he is v good
wallace/ davies are pretty close
a couple of years ago jan would have been there but hes a bit gone now
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Old 17 Aug 2004, 14:40 (Ref:1069363)   #5
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10. Walter Lechner Jr (ok hes not as famous as the others, but very quick in the Saleen)
9. Terry Borcheller
8. Emanuele Pirro
7. Frank Biela
6. Marco Werner
5. Stephan Johanssen
4. Johnny Hebert
3. James Weaver
2. Allan McNish
1. Andy Wallace
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Old 17 Aug 2004, 16:34 (Ref:1069480)   #6
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jase should be qualifying in the top 10 on the gridjase should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
19dodge, I like your top 4. In no particular order:

Joao Barbosa is looking good in the Rollcentre Dallara,
Tommy Erdos in the Saleen
Johnny Mowlem is a brilliant Porsche driver
Thomas Biaggi in the Ferrari
Tom Kristensen in the Audi
Andy Wallace Currently Zytec
Chris Dyson (ALMS - Lola Aer)
Tim Sugden BGT & ALMS
Stefan Ortelli Porsche

Stuggling with a tenth person so 'll leave it at 9
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Old 17 Aug 2004, 16:44 (Ref:1069488)   #7
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Some very good GT drivers in Jason's list, I must admit that I was heavy on prototype guys. Surprised nobody's mentioned Ron Fellows or Jan Magnussen yet, on the GT side...

(and you can drink a pint of Bovril, but that reminds me of a long Billy Connolly joke about "fitba' violence" )
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Old 17 Aug 2004, 16:48 (Ref:1069490)   #8
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How anyone can leave Tom Kristensen out of their top ten is beyond me!

And Davies ahead of McNish?

Maybe watching different races!
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Old 17 Aug 2004, 17:05 (Ref:1069500)   #9
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Do you mean current GT/LMP drivers?

Don't forget:
Jan Lammers
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Old 17 Aug 2004, 17:36 (Ref:1069526)   #10
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If we make a list of drivers from the past & now look in this topic.
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Old 17 Aug 2004, 17:58 (Ref:1069559)   #11
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1. Max the "Axe" Angelelli
2. Andy Wallace
3. Tom Kristensen
4. Butch Leitzinger
5. James Weaver
6. Scott Pruett
7. Ron Fellows
8. Bill Auberline
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Old 17 Aug 2004, 18:48 (Ref:1069619)   #12
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rdjones should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridrdjones should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridrdjones should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridrdjones should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
Agian in no order I would say:-

1:- Tom Kristensen
2:- Andy Wallace
3:- Johnny Herbert
4:- Marco Werner
5:- Allan McNish
6:- Sascha Maassen
7:- JJ Letho
8:- Fabrizio Gollin
9:- Lucas Luhr
10:- David Brabham
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Old 17 Aug 2004, 19:23 (Ref:1069675)   #13
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What about Minassian? Doing an excellent job for Creation...
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Old 17 Aug 2004, 21:26 (Ref:1069799)   #14
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OK, Andy Wallace is my number one. As far as I know, he's the only one to race ALL of the best cars of the 21st century (RFH Dome, Speed 8, R8, MG Lola, DBA Zytek). Here's my other nine in no particular order:

Leitzinger- flies in anything
Borchellar-9 championships in nine years, or is it 8?
Gavin-best in the Vette stable
Werner-fastest in the R8 in rookie year
Kristensen- 6 Le Mans wins
Pirro-IMO, the most consistant R8 driver
Pruett- fast in anything
Magnussen-fast in anything
Bourdais-fast in anything
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Old 17 Aug 2004, 22:37 (Ref:1069886)   #15
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1. Alan Mcnish
2. Johnny Herbert
3. J.J. Lehtto
4. James Weaver
5. oliver Gavin
6. Andy Wallace
7. Tom Kristensen
8. Bill Auberlen
9. Ron Fellows
10. Terry Borcheller
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Old 17 Aug 2004, 22:46 (Ref:1069898)   #16
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Kristensen
Lehto
Magnussen
Luhr
Maassen
Ortelli
Enge

My ideal team (if I wanted to win Le Mans) would be Lehto, Kristensen and Ortelli. (assuming in this world I am not allowed to have Schumacher, who I am not a fan of, but...).
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Old 18 Aug 2004, 05:16 (Ref:1070094)   #17
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i would take my chances and put Schumacher in my car
but ..
Kristensen
JJLehtto
Johnny Herbert
Alan McNish
Andy Wallace
Sebastian Bourdais
Thomas Enge
E.Pirro
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R.Capello
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Old 18 Aug 2004, 06:48 (Ref:1070138)   #18
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Top 10 Sportscar drivers today:

1. Kristensen for sure #1.
2. Magnussen, when the going gets tough there is no one better!
3. McNish perfect endurance driver
4. Pirro ""
5. Herbert ""
6. Lehto ""
7. Wallace ""
8. Collard No one is faster.
9. Maassen, great GT driver, needs a prototype chance.
10. Luhr, almost as good as Maassen. Will be at the top of this list in 5 years!

Sorry, but I don't rate Ortelli that highly. I don't think he is anything special.......

To win Le Mans, I'd have 2 cars.
1st: Magnussen, Kritensen & Lehto to run flat out.
2nd: McNish, Herbert & Pirro to run 90%.

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Old 18 Aug 2004, 07:04 (Ref:1070153)   #19
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For me it is:

1) Alan McNish - The record books would be different if he hadnt gone to Formula one
2) Tom Kristenson
3) JJ Lehto
4) Johnny Herbert
5) Andy Wallace
6) Butch Leitzinger
7) Sebastian Bourdais
8) Pirro
9) Pierre Kaffer - Early days but is looking extremely useful
10) James Weaver

After another few races then you could well see Robbie Kerr join this list!

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Old 18 Aug 2004, 08:42 (Ref:1070242)   #20
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good choices,
for me it´s:
Brabs
Magnussen
Wallace
Weaver
Leitzinger
Kristensen
Minassien
McNish
Herbert
Capello
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Old 18 Aug 2004, 10:22 (Ref:1070321)   #21
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Slightly off track, but are Maassen, Collard and Ortelli on long term porsche contracts? It would be such a waste if we didn't see Ortelli in a prototype again or if Sascha and Emmanuel never got the chance.
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Old 18 Aug 2004, 17:10 (Ref:1070682)   #22
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Ok, heres my top 10, but in no particular order, all current drivers, if it was for past racers then it would include the likes of Icxx, Redman etc.

1) Tom Kristensen,
2) Allan McNish,
3) JJ Lehto,
4) Andy Wallace,
5) James Weaver,
6) David Brabham,
7) Ron Fellows,
8) Johnny O Connell,
9) Johnny Herbert,
10) Butch Leitzinger.

It was hard to pick a top 10 only, it was also very difficult to not include Jan Lammers, Frank Biela, Dindo Capello, E Pirro. But that would have been a top 14
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Old 19 Aug 2004, 09:32 (Ref:1071323)   #23
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Taking people's lists, and scoring the top driver as 10, 10th as 1.... (using a flat 5.5 for "no particular orders), I get the following "Top 20"

93 Kristensen
86 Wallace
72.5 McNish
53.5 Lehto
48.5 Herbert
40.5 Weaver
31 Magnussen
29 Brabham
28.5 Leitzinger
25.5 Pirro
18.5 Maassen
16 Ortelli
15.5 Werner
14.5 Bourdais
13.5 Enge
13.5 Luhr
11.5 Fellows
11 Gavin
10 Angelelli
10 Pruett

Seems like everyone rates Wallace but I'm amazed at how low Brabs is scored!
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Wallace is just behind Kristensen for me, but only just. Given the same chances in the same equipment, I would have expected him to net similar results.

I'm reasonably happy with that composite list, although I'd probably rate Pirro higher and I'ds want to see Capello on it - there are several drivers there who aren't in the same league as him.

For me, Brabs is about right. Just hasn't had enough exposure in top notch machinery.......
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Old 19 Aug 2004, 11:17 (Ref:1071402)   #25
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in no particular order(except for tom!):

tom k.
herbert
mcnish
lehto
capello
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