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Old 25 May 2018, 04:58 (Ref:3824499)   #51
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Azcona seems to have far more talent than Oriola, let alone Filippi.
I dont know if thats true, but i agree that Oriola is overrated. He is a Seat works driver in disguise for years and never won a championship, even when someone (Comini) did in the very same car.
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Old 25 May 2018, 06:12 (Ref:3824505)   #52
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Azcona seems to have far more talent than Oriola, let alone Filippi.
On this we agree. I have been watching Azcona for some years since first coming across him in EuroCup Clio in 2013, he is fast and talented.
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Old 25 May 2018, 12:12 (Ref:3824552)   #53
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Look like it's normal that Tarquini, Bjork, Muller and Michelisz are half second faster then TCR International and Indy Light Champion (Vernay), 3 time BTCC Champion (Shedden), 2 time BTCC champion (Thompson), Guerrieri who fight on equal terms with Michelisz and Bjork last year (truth to be told he was faster then both Bjork and Michelisz but Michelisz was in fight for championship), and also Fabrizio Giovanardi was always faster then Tarquini. Last year he drove DSG Leon with broken turbo and he was slightly slower then champion Baldan, and now he can't get in points...


Good to know that

They need to lower Hyundai to 80mm and then it will be good

Guerrieri is an excellent driver, but where was he faster then Norbi?




https://www.motorsport.com/wtcc/news...e-pole-972171/


https://www.motorsport.com/wtcc/news...o-pole-979597/


https://www.autosport.com/wtcr/news/...title-showdown



http://motorsport.nextgen-auto.com/Q...rd,122788.html
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Old 25 May 2018, 12:15 (Ref:3824553)   #54
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With only half the compensation weight in TCR Europe Hyundai did pretty well. So the question is, whether Hyundai would be as fast as the rest, if the compensation weight would be equal for all cars. I think the bop might be right now. Everyone who thinks that Tarquini, who was axed by Honda as a works driver for “loosing“ his edge, or Michelisz who at this point never won a internationally important championship and was the obvious Nr.2 driver to Monteiro till his accident, are up to a second faster per lap as Shedden, World Champion Huff, or Vernay, should look for another past time leisure. Fishing is nice, or golfing, swimming, maybe reading?

Why was that obvious? There was about 20 ponts difference between them, and Norbi was the better in qualis and in the main races.
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Old 25 May 2018, 12:32 (Ref:3824559)   #55
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Why was that obvious? There was about 20 ponts difference between them, and Norbi was the better in qualis and in the main races.
I dont want to be misunderstood: Michelsz, Tarquini, Muller and Björk are very good drivers, and i support them all! They are just not racing against privateers or noobs, but seasoned champioship winning drivers that have prooved time and time again that they arnt slower. Michelisz is not a Touringcar Senna, and thankfully we have a wide range of equally skilled FWD drivers in the World. Suggesting that the Hyundai drivers are so much better then the rest is just ignorant or a joke.
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Old 25 May 2018, 23:28 (Ref:3824658)   #56
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Suggesting that the Hyundai drivers are so much better then the rest is just ignorant or a joke.

The great advantage about telling the truth is that nobody ever believes it.
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Old 26 May 2018, 09:22 (Ref:3824723)   #57
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I think to some people here, if Tarquini wasn't Italian and Norbi wasn't Hungarian we wouldn't be having this conversation. Some people do let their nationalism get to their heads. "BoP WAS FINE, FELLOW COUNTRYMAN GOOD, EVERYONE ELSE IS CRAP BECAUSE FORIGENER".


Anyway I think they need BoP tables for track type like they do in GT3. The way it is now would be like having a R8 LMS dominate a perfect track for the car like Laguna Seca, have the next race at Monza and give the car less power and more weight were its already going to be slower without BoP intervening. BoP should be proactive not reactive when a series on completely different circuits one week to the next. The Hyundai should be equal, not massively in front and then miles behind.
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Old 26 May 2018, 18:42 (Ref:3824808)   #58
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The great advantage about telling the truth is that nobody ever believes it.
Believing something BECAUSE no one else does, must be a very confusing way of life.
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Old 29 May 2018, 14:12 (Ref:3825459)   #59
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He had a job to do during that part of the season, backing up Norbi and collecting team points, scoring wins and podiums only when the other two priorities were out of the question — it's not as clear cut as you are perhaps making it out to be.
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Seems Eurosport Events asked too much money to the Argentinians and they just took off...


Slovakia Ring as replacement.
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Seems Argentina is broke.
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Seems Argentina is broke.

Or someone was trying to squeeze too much money out of the Argentinians and they got tired of it.
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Old 2 Jun 2018, 18:23 (Ref:3826287)   #63
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Or someone was trying to squeeze too much money out of the Argentinians and they got tired of it.
interest rate 40%
inflation 25%
economy nosediving
applying for emergency IMF funds.

its broke.
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