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Old 1 Apr 2019, 18:33 (Ref:3894720)   #1681
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This time last year after Bahrain, McLaren had 22 points. This year they have 8. And that is recovery??
They've made progress since last season, remember they went backwards massively during the season. I know it's early days yet but they've not been making a big song and dance about the car, despite what I thought was a very good winter test.

They comfortably got both cars in Q3 and I can't recall a McLaren attacking a Red Bull on merit for years! If Sainz had been a bit wiser with his defense he may have been chasing down Bottas or keeping Verstappen honest too. Norris made good steady progress through the field after a poor start which is something I haven't seen McLaren do in a long time either.

I'm cautiously optimistic this season, reliability looks like it might be an issue but if they keep their heads down and keep developing I think they may pull off a few surprises.
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Old 1 Apr 2019, 18:53 (Ref:3894726)   #1682
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Yes, he screwed up because he is impatient and hopefully F1 is shot of him permanently. I hope he writes the book some day, I want to see how he blames everyone else for his lack of success in the latter part of his career. You may have gathered that I am not a fan and you would be right.
Impatient? He was with Ferrari for 5 years and McLaren more recently, for 4 years. The success he sought in F1, during the later part of his career, hasn't materialised. However, success has come in the form of Le Mans, Daytona and Sebring. Who knows, he might win the 500.
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Old 1 Apr 2019, 22:51 (Ref:3894753)   #1683
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Impatient? He was with Ferrari for 5 years and McLaren more recently, for 4 years. The success he sought in F1, during the later part of his career, hasn't materialised. However, success has come in the form of Le Mans, Daytona and Sebring. Who knows, he might win the 500.
Indeed!
I would add that it doesn't matter to anyone else what driver's we like or not. Anyone who claims Alonso is anything other than one of the best is deluding themselves.
In a similar vein, Hamilton isn't hugely popular among old school enthusiasts but it is undeniable that he is a fantastic natural driver.
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Impatient? He was with Ferrari for 5 years and McLaren more recently, for 4 years. The success he sought in F1, during the later part of his career, hasn't materialised. However, success has come in the form of Le Mans, Daytona and Sebring. Who knows, he might win the 500.
As long as he does not return to F1 I don't care what he wins. Remind me how long did Michael Schumacher have to wait before he began winning at Ferrari?
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Indeed!
I would add that it doesn't matter to anyone else what driver's we like or not. Anyone who claims Alonso is anything other than one of the best is deluding themselves.
In a similar vein, Hamilton isn't hugely popular among old school enthusiasts but it is undeniable that he is a fantastic natural driver.
No delusions, Alonso is one of the best but that didn't get him a seat in a winning car.
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Old 2 Apr 2019, 10:36 (Ref:3894819)   #1686
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As long as he does not return to F1 I don't care what he wins. Remind me how long did Michael Schumacher have to wait before he began winning at Ferrari?
He won 3 times in his first season with them...
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As long as he does not return to F1 I don't care what he wins. Remind me how long did Michael Schumacher have to wait before he began winning at Ferrari?
Not sure what point you are getting at here.

Alonso - won his first race, and more in that season.
Schumacher - won his seventh race, and more in that season.
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As long as he does not return to F1 I don't care what he wins. Remind me how long did Michael Schumacher have to wait before he began winning at Ferrari?
Schumi won the Spanish, Belgian and Italian GPs, in his first season with Ferrari in 1996, as well as 5 other podium finishes and don't forget, he had already won the WDC twice, back to back in 1994 and '95.
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Can we please refocus the thread on McLaren 2019 rather than the merits of lack thereof of Alonso's decision-making skills and attitude?

We don't want this to turn into a driver bashing thread, particularly when it is not focused solely on one driver. Can we please frame mentions of Alonso more within the context of 2019? Thanks.
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Fred himself says the car is better than last season, which shows McLaren are improving
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Old 9 Apr 2019, 14:16 (Ref:3896431)   #1691
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Personally I think they can compete.
They've stepped up since last year and Norris is performing very well.
I've loved McLaren since I was young with the days of Hakkinen.
I always remember that overtake at Spa.

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Welcome, Rich.

We could do with evocative names like McLaren and Williams in the thick of it, not making up the numbers.
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Not a great qualifying this weekend but they had excellent race pace! Of course we must thank Danil Kvyat for torpedoing both McLarens, so no points to show. 🙄
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So last year they started off alright, brought quite a big upgrade for Barcelona which didnít seem to do much, then slid slowly down to the back of the grid as the year progressed. Hmmm, I guess itís crunch time. Interesting that theyíve switched to the aero philosophy that Ferrari seem to think might be a mistake. I do hope they make it work. Still early days.
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