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Old 23 Mar 2019, 10:37 (Ref:3892931)   #241
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What does McNamara care - Holden no longer employ him.

Unless they pay him for posting on social media, or provide him with a loan car or something?
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Old 24 Mar 2019, 12:03 (Ref:3893054)   #242
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EXACTLY. Would love a night out at the dinner table with him.

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Old 24 Mar 2019, 20:30 (Ref:3893115)   #243
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Simply a fan. With an almost irreplaceable inside knowledge of the machinations of the sport. And still simply a fan.
Seems a little short-sighted for him to not keep his options open; should he wish to rejoin the sport, and put that irreplaceable inside knowledge back into productive use.
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Old 24 Mar 2019, 22:52 (Ref:3893129)   #244
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Old 23 Apr 2019, 05:22 (Ref:3899096)   #245
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Old 23 Apr 2019, 05:29 (Ref:3899097)   #246
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Did hear discussion from someone in the know of those end plates functioning like rudders an providing stability in corners, all of which escapes the aero homologation.

Kinda interested to understand the methodology in this and what changes ensure future homologation is solid.

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Old 23 Apr 2019, 06:01 (Ref:3899099)   #247
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Well I guess that isn't a surprise given all the chat about this within the sport.

I reckon that it's probably about 15 years since such a parity change to aero has been made during the season (that was a reduction in the commodore front undertray).

Prior to COTF, there was a process within the supercar rules / vehicle recognition process to assess parity across the two makes racing at the time - it used data from the timing system across all races and going deep into the field (not just the front runners).

When COTF came in, that process was dumped in the belief that the new regulations would provide technical parity without the need for adjustments outside of the testing / approval process.

From the sound of this statement, it seems that supercars has gone back to a process similar to that pre-COTF arrangement. Not surprised, to me it seemed foolhardy to go away from the process in the first place as it provides an effective "safety net".

Whilst not perfect (nothing is) the category has always been a technical parity based competition and having some kind of ongoing data to assess so that tech parity can be monitored as best as possible makes sense - what doesn't make sense was to go away from such measurement but good to see that something similar seems to be underway again.
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Old 23 Apr 2019, 06:09 (Ref:3899100)   #248
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Old 23 Apr 2019, 06:27 (Ref:3899101)   #249
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Ford designed the Mustang within the rules. Now they have to pay again to have the changed.

Why should they have to pay to redo it when they did it perfectly the first time?

Shouldn’t Holden and Nissan have to submit new aero changes?
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Why should they have to pay to redo it when they did it perfectly the first time?

Shouldn’t Holden and Nissan have to submit new aero changes?
Well I guess if the data that has been examined shows an imbalance for one of the three manufacturers then it makes sense to adjust the one car that is deemed to be different or have an advantage, particularly when that adjustment requires reduction in the size of aero components.

For example, when holden had the front under tray trimmed back in the day, it was done that way as there simply wasn't space under the front of the ford of the time to increase the size of the ford's undertray. For all we know, could be something similar at play in this case too.
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Well they won't be will they? Always a highly emotive subject, parity adjustments. It's good that there is such passion in the fanbase but that does tend to magnify some responses and people generally seem to just luuuurve a conspiracy theory.
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Old 23 Apr 2019, 07:06 (Ref:3899106)   #252
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If this change were truly inspired by the intervention of one team, the return of liner springs would have appeared too..
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Old 23 Apr 2019, 07:07 (Ref:3899107)   #253
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people generally seem to just luuuurve a conspiracy theory.
I don't think they love conspiracy theories.

I do think they hate incompetence.


Also, since the Mustang was essentially illegal for the first lot of races, what point deductions are coming? A car can't just start being legal multiple races into a season. Point penalties for all Mustangs is the bare minimum

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I don't think they love conspiracy theories.

I do think they hate incompetence.


Also, since the Mustang was essentially illegal for the first lot of races, what point deductions are coming? A car can't just start being legal multiple races into a season. Point penalties for all Mustangs is the bare minimum
Name 1 way that it was illegal
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Old 23 Apr 2019, 07:40 (Ref:3899109)   #255
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Name 1 way that it was illegal
Don't feed the troll.

For anybody who wants precedence, that which became Supercars has done this before, and F1 issues rule clarifications all the time, so calm your farm.
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