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Old 8 Apr 2019, 06:03 (Ref:3896127)   #46
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I can't stand to see races like this! 3 races were drivers seems like blocked due to traffic in highway! And the ridiculous thing is that we won't see overtakes neither in vila real, zandvort and Macau!
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Old 8 Apr 2019, 09:06 (Ref:3896180)   #47
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If it wasn't for the drama of the race leaders retiring, this weekend would be utterly forgetful. If this is the only race meeting the BBC shows, it's picked the worst one to do.

Still some good performances by Bjork and Tarquini and good to see Flash up there in R3
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Old 8 Apr 2019, 12:36 (Ref:3896224)   #48
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Sadly so many championships race at these uninteresting poorly attended venues. It just is poor when you have all these championships being decided in front of no one.

Its not a good look to not only have 3 dull races, but no spectators at all, there must have been 50 people across both stands.
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Old 8 Apr 2019, 12:56 (Ref:3896225)   #49
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Sadly so many championships race at these uninteresting poorly attended venues. It just is poor when you have all these championships being decided in front of no one.

Its not a good look to not only have 3 dull races, but no spectators at all, there must have been 50 people across both stands.
Agree, I can't remember seeing lot of spectators in Marrakech, maybe only at the first race there.

On the other hand there should more spectators at Hungaroring and Slovakiaring, while Zandvoort (JUMBO days), Nordschleife (24 Hours race) and Villa Real (it's always full) will have a lot of spectators.

Last years there was no one at Ningbo, Macau is always full, but no idea what to expect from Sepang and Suzuka. There will be Super Formula and TCR Japan at the same weekend so I expect fairly good attendance.
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Old 8 Apr 2019, 13:05 (Ref:3896227)   #50
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Tarquini complaining they are hard done by the BoP because they didn't win 2 races this year.

I worked it out and the Hyundai was quick in quali and the race. It was 2 tenths behind on race pace and 1 tenths behind in quali (on average) with only Audi was quicker in both. Plus all 4 Hyundais were in the top half for race and quali pace. I think he wants to be 2 seconds a lap quicker than the rest!

The BoP is actually really good when you look at the numbers (for Marrakech at least).
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Old 8 Apr 2019, 15:24 (Ref:3896254)   #51
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no spectators at all, there must have been 50 people across both stands.
I have been to Marrakech 7 times(5 Wtcc(2010/2012/2013/2014/2016) and 2 Formula E(2018/2019)).
The morning during the practices,there are just hardcore fans.We have to wait for the qualy to see people.
The ticket price is 50 euros.It is too expensive compared to 15 euros in FE.
The stands have always been empty even during races.I remember that in 2016, the organizers opened the door to local residents to fill the stands because there was nobody.There were women with their babies in the back who were crying because of the noise of the cars ....
This year,the stands in Formula E were full(for the race) with spectators who have paid their seats.There was a grandstand in front of the stands that was reserved for schoolchildren.
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Old 8 Apr 2019, 15:36 (Ref:3896259)   #52
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no idea what to expect from Sepang and Suzuka. There will be Super Formula and TCR Japan at the same weekend so I expect fairly good attendance.
And Sepang will have the FIM Endurance World Championship. Motorcycling is quite popular in Malaysia, so it could be decent.

Edit: The World Sueprbikes round at Sepang had low attendance and was dropped after 2016.

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Old 8 Apr 2019, 16:15 (Ref:3896274)   #53
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BOP was good but we have to see on real tracks how it is the situation...
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Old 8 Apr 2019, 17:34 (Ref:3896285)   #54
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BOP was good but we have to see on real tracks how it is the situation...
It's indeed to early (like the whining of Hyundai )
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Old 9 Apr 2019, 12:34 (Ref:3896418)   #55
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It's indeed to early (like the whining of Hyundai )
Tarquini won a race cause he qualified 9th! And all other Hyundai didn't get good result. Tarquini is right to complain and imho it's stupid to give a bop before first race!
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Old 9 Apr 2019, 13:28 (Ref:3896422)   #56
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Tarquini won a race cause he qualified 9th! And all other Hyundai didn't get good result.
As I mentioned above they were quite quick though not the quickest. A reasonable argument is that they should be the quickest on the tight street circuits as they dominated last year, therefore because they didn't do brilliantly they will struggle the whole year. Only problem is that they won at every circuit bar 3 last year. Just because you won last year due to a favourable BoP doesn't mean you're allowed the nicest BoP again this year.

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Tarquini is right to complain and imho it's stupid to give a bop before first race!
And the reason for the BoP is to reduce cost. If for even 1 race there wasn't BoP then every manufacturer would have to spend so much to be the actual fastest just to gain every tenth making the cars cost way over 130k to make. That would be to just win 1 round and every team serious about the title would spend the money just to be ahead for that 1 round. Then for round 2, 3... whenever the BoP came in the cars would be identical and those who lost out in the first round(s) would already be at a disadvantage because they didn't spend a million pounds for one round. Plus then every privateer running those cars around the world would need to spend on the presumably expensive upgrade.

Running without BoP defeats the point of BoP at which point you just get Super Touring which obviously stayed around for so many years without spiralling costs right?
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Tarquini won a race cause he qualified 9th! And all other Hyundai didn't get good result. Tarquini is right to complain and imho it's stupid to give a bop before first race!
Having your best driver to qualify just 0.4 off pole is very bad...
Also other Hyundai drivers were 0.46, 0.47 and 0.76 so they all were inside 1 second.
What did they expect, to dominate like last year...
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Old 9 Apr 2019, 18:19 (Ref:3896466)   #58
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TCR BoP should be worldwide identical.

Perhaps we should wait until the local TCR series started to get an overal impression about the car strenghts, not just on one track or by one driver.
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Old 9 Apr 2019, 21:10 (Ref:3896494)   #59
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Tarquini won a race cause he qualified 9th! And all other Hyundai didn't get good result. Tarquini is right to complain and imho it's stupid to give a bop before first race!
Like last year, sandbagging during bop test and then destroy their rivals at the first race.
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Perhaps we should wait until the local TCR series started to get an overal impression about the car strenghts, not just on one track or by one driver.
They use same BoP, but WTCR also use compensation weight, but they were same for every car last weekend, 60kg for everyone.
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