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Old 3 Apr 2019, 08:18 (Ref:3895001)   #1
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New low-cost touring car category

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Maybe someone from FIA is reading this forum and they find my comment about having Clio Cup and Mini Challenge and similar sized vehicle sin one class
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Old 3 Apr 2019, 09:03 (Ref:3895023)   #2
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Alan Gow has a hand in making this work so I'd expect it to do well. I reckon they need to half the cost of TCR to make it highly successful. Fortunately Clio Cup and Mini Challenge are already more than alf the cost.
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Old 3 Apr 2019, 09:11 (Ref:3895026)   #3
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Dacia Sandero, that'll reduce costs!
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Old 3 Apr 2019, 09:44 (Ref:3895029)   #4
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Dacia Sandero, that'll reduce costs!
Citroen C1 Cup, reduce them further!
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Old 3 Apr 2019, 09:59 (Ref:3895033)   #5
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This should be interesting.

The Clio Cup (was) and Mini Challenge (is) great feeder series, but a unified formula for use across Europe and the globe makes some sense. Higher production volumes and business competition will lead to reduced costs.
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Old 3 Apr 2019, 10:10 (Ref:3895036)   #6
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Great news!
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Old 3 Apr 2019, 10:43 (Ref:3895045)   #7
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This sounds great - hopefully it'll get off the ground unlike the TC Light series a couple years back...
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Old 3 Apr 2019, 11:42 (Ref:3895057)   #8
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I don't know why they are faffing around. Just use the TCR rules and apply it to polos, ibizas, Clios, fiestas, minis etc etc. Reduce the power, smaller engines, smaller brakes etc and boom.... All done.
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I don't know why they are faffing around. Just use the TCR rules and apply it to polos, ibizas, Clios, fiestas, minis etc etc. Reduce the power, smaller engines, smaller brakes etc and boom.... All done.
I think for this to be successful, they need to make the new cars considerably cheaper than TCR.

Simply copying and pasting the TCR regs to smaller cars will probably not lead to enough interest, as teams will be tempted to simply run in TCR if that's just a little bit more expensive.

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Old 5 Apr 2019, 06:51 (Ref:3895404)   #10
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They will need to have standard gearboxes, standard suspension hubs/arms/etc, standard body panels, maybe all use the same brake kit. Then for race weekends it needs a limit of tyres, personnel, etc
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Old 5 Apr 2019, 07:15 (Ref:3895407)   #11
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its designed to be the same sort of price and specification of clio cup cars etc
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Old 5 Apr 2019, 07:50 (Ref:3895417)   #12
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They will need to have standard gearboxes, standard suspension hubs/arms/etc, standard body panels, maybe all use the same brake kit. Then for race weekends it needs a limit of tyres, personnel, etc
That would end up being like a smaller Solution-F car. And we know how well that did STCC...
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Old 5 Apr 2019, 07:51 (Ref:3895419)   #13
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I think for this to be successful, they need to make the new cars considerably cheaper than TCR.

Simply copying and pasting the TCR regs to smaller cars will probably not lead to enough interest, as teams will be tempted to simply run in TCR if that's just a little bit more expensive.

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I didn't say components... I said rules. You could easily build/sell a new compact class car for under 50K Euros
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Old 5 Apr 2019, 08:12 (Ref:3895425)   #14
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In fact I mentioned a hatchback championship here back in 2017...
https://tentenths.com/forum/showpost...postcount=1826

I think it would be a good thing to have a series with about 200-250BHP and cars costing maybe £30-50K.
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Easy to pluck numbers from the air, but no one is going to build them if there's no money to be made.
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