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Old 10 Aug 2016, 14:59 (Ref:3664916)   #201
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Yes.

But not the same I believe as this: http://inmotion.tue.nl

Lord knows what's all going on with these possible/potential Garage 56 entrants...
Well, what we do know is it doesn't look like BMW is on that list!
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Old 19 Aug 2016, 11:17 (Ref:3666527)   #202
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more about BMW entering (with a proper, international homologation GT, from 2019 on) the WEC [AMS, ger]

Seems to be a M6-based GT, but would need to have its engine shrunk (down to 4l).

in other news, LMP1 fuel cell off the table for the moment, too high investments necessary it seems (500M cited); up to 60 guysngals seemed to have worked on a P1 concept up to jan 2016.
Roadmap for P1 (fuel cell) 2020 G56, 2021 (regulations pleasing, pending)

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Old 19 Aug 2016, 13:26 (Ref:3666550)   #203
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more about BMW entering (with a proper, international homologation GT, from 2019 on) the WEC [AMS, ger]

Seems to be a M6-based GT, but would need to have its engine shrunk (down to 4l).

in other news, LMP1 fuel cell off the table for the moment, too high investments necessary it seems (500M cited); up to 60 guysngals seemed to have worked on a P1 concept up to jan 2016.
Roadmap for P1 (fuel cell) 2020 G56, 2021 (regulations pleasing, pending)
Unless the one of the F1 team has withdrawn F1 race and partner with BMW LMP1 team
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Old 19 Aug 2016, 13:45 (Ref:3666560)   #204
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Unless the one of the F1 team has withdrawn F1 race and partner with BMW LMP1 team
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Old 19 Aug 2016, 13:51 (Ref:3666566)   #205
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???
It means that If one of the Formula 1 team withdraw the Formula 1 championship due to the sponsorship or the Formula 1 results issues , they might partnering with BMW LMP1 team
For example: BMW V12 LMR team partner with WilliamF1 since 1999

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_V12_LMR

Do you understand???
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Old 19 Aug 2016, 13:55 (Ref:3666568)   #206
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It means that If one of the Formula 1 team withdraw the Formula 1 championship due to the sponsorship or the Formula 1 results issues , they might partnering with BMW LMP1 team
For example: BMW V12 LMR team partner with WilliamF1 since 1999

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_V12_LMR

Do you understand???
Yes, but the suggestion is so random/bizarre I don't understand the point of it. The historical reference too.

Sure, it may theoretically happen I guess, but so might SEAT building Porsche-beating LMP1 next year too. Theoretically.
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Old 19 Aug 2016, 13:58 (Ref:3666571)   #207
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Yes, but the suggestion is so random/bizarre I don't understand the point of it. The historical reference too.

Sure, it may theoretically happen I guess, but so might SEAT building Porsche-beating LMP1 next year too. Theoretically.
Then I hoped this case will happen .
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Then I hoped this case will happen .
For the record, I hope it too
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For the record, I hope it too

I Hope that will happen too. Especially Sauber F1 team who struggles financial difficulties (e.g salary delays and so on) and the result of F1 team is worst (I mean the team championship and driver championship are in the last place) or least successful in Formula 1 but it need to depends of the results for next season.

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Old 19 Aug 2016, 15:59 (Ref:3666599)   #210
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I hope it's not m6 based, but z5/supra (w.e. Toyota calls it).
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Old 19 Aug 2016, 19:17 (Ref:3666635)   #211
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more about BMW entering (with a proper, international homologation GT, from 2019 on) the WEC [AMS, ger]

Seems to be a M6-based GT, but would need to have its engine shrunk (down to 4l).

in other news, LMP1 fuel cell off the table for the moment, too high investments necessary it seems (500M cited); up to 60 guysngals seemed to have worked on a P1 concept up to jan 2016.
Roadmap for P1 (fuel cell) 2020 G56, 2021 (regulations pleasing, pending)
Interesting reflections:
*600 Hp for GTE in 2019 (100 more than now)
* DTM need to be renewed and reinvented
The mood of the three manufacturers participating is negative and all of that are now firmly anchored in the GT3-business - so there are alternatives in the event if the downward trend continue. Super GT3? Like the SuperGT rumor, and eventually a GTE if the convergence GT is successful.
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Old 27 Sep 2016, 07:24 (Ref:3675472)   #212
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BMW has officially announced their WEC GTE programme, starting 2018.

http://www.fiawec.com/en/news/bmw-to...2018_4434.html
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Old 27 Sep 2016, 07:27 (Ref:3675473)   #213
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Good news.

The extra garages can't be built soon enough.
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Old 27 Sep 2016, 07:29 (Ref:3675474)   #214
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After losing long time supporters like JMW this year to make way for 12 Fords, I'm a little wary. Hopefully we don't lose the little guys again.
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Old 27 Sep 2016, 09:36 (Ref:3675481)   #215
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This can only be good news. A major manufacturer committing to the GT ranks. The only downside is that it means no LMP1 campaign.
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That BMW press release in full. Heavy emphasis on production-based racing as usual, with the notable exception of Formula E.

http://www.bmw-motorsport.com/en/new...alignment.html
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Any manufacturer entering the WEC can only be doing it for good reasons and I hope it goes well enough for them. This is more good news for the series
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That more manufacturers are comitting(BMW)/showing interest(Lambo) is incredibly promising considering that GTE was once criticized for being an unsustainable one-off category that can only race in the WEC/IMSA.
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Wonderful news to here that BMW is coming back to Le Mans...just splendid!

Can anyone speculate on which car they are going to go with? I am think they run the new designed M6 but have ready they might go in a different direction.
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I know the rlm crew were saying at cota it won't be the supra/z5 but I don't see what else it could be. Unless the 6 series is more sporty, I doubt that's the choice. There's rumors that the 6 will be like the 5 series GT and a hatchback type of car. That won't do it.
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Is the M2 or M4 an option? I don't know the BMW range very well
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Can you not just do a GTE/GT3 M4 as well? We've had a hundred different spec 911s over the decades.

I also don't see what else they can do other than the Toyota collaboration.
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I guess so. I think it helps to have a race car developed on a certain body source, so in my mind M6/4 are in the pole position (because of the GT3 experience on the 6, and the then existing development experience on the 4), albeit the M6 seems quite chunky to me. Then again I'm no car designer
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I suppose a new Z8 could be possible before 2018.
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