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Old 7 Nov 2002, 04:28 (Ref:423493)   #1
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Portugues Grand Prix

I have just read from news now that the Portugues gp is on the list for next year, I think this will be great I love that circuit and for sure I will be there too.
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Old 7 Nov 2002, 04:36 (Ref:423496)   #2
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It's no substitute for Spa.
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Old 7 Nov 2002, 05:24 (Ref:423501)   #3
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Where did you hear that? Give me a source. Its good news, I always thought Estoril produced good races, although they have stuffed the track up a bit since then.
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Old 7 Nov 2002, 06:23 (Ref:423535)   #4
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Don't be fooled. The track has been destroyed like every other great track - the very fast turn 1 is now a sharp, slow and BORING right-hander.

That's why they race MotoGP there now.
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Old 7 Nov 2002, 08:23 (Ref:423586)   #5
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Estoril is back?

Is this in place of Spa? I thought that F1 was just going to have 16 races next year if Spa was gone .

Should it be back? Well I'd forgot they'd changed it until you reminded me f1manoz. The new corner, is it second gear. Oh how I love second gear corners

Estoril has been mentioned quite a few times for inclusion into the calendar. Almost since immediatelty after it was removed in 1996.
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Old 7 Nov 2002, 10:35 (Ref:423659)   #6
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No, Estoril is not back!!! Thanks God!! I don't want boring Formula 1 in Estoril!
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Old 7 Nov 2002, 10:53 (Ref:423678)   #7
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Geez....I just went to e-tracks and what the hell have they done to the first two corners? When did that happen? And that extra chichane out the back? God the track wasn't that great to start with...good but not great and then they go and make those mods. I'm happy it's not going to be back!
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Old 7 Nov 2002, 10:55 (Ref:423682)   #8
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Confirmation?

Nothing at F1-Live, F1 Racing, Global F1, Atlas F1, Alpha F1, Crash.Net...
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Old 7 Nov 2002, 13:07 (Ref:423769)   #9
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Nothing here in www.Sportmotores.com Estoril is not confirmed!!

Personally, I don't want Formula 1 in Estoril, too!!

Ecclestone morre longe !!!
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Old 7 Nov 2002, 13:52 (Ref:423796)   #10
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Estoril's current layout is better suited to Moto GP than F1, and no European circuit can hope to come close to Spa. All the same, it would be ncie if they filled the gap in the schedule, and anything will seem good afte rthe Hungaroring. Thank God August is CART's busiest time, so we can see some actual racing in the summer.
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Old 7 Nov 2002, 13:52 (Ref:423797)   #11
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Why you guys from Portugal, don't want F1 there ?

It will be good for the tourism...
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Old 7 Nov 2002, 14:01 (Ref:423803)   #12
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Why you guys from Portugal, don't want F1 there ?

It will be good for the tourism...
Why?? We don't like to receive some guys like Ecclestone and his dog Mosley....


Ecclestone morre longe....e depressa !!!
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Old 7 Nov 2002, 14:36 (Ref:423830)   #13
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Maybe Jerez, but certainly not Estoril...
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Old 7 Nov 2002, 18:21 (Ref:424004)   #14
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Estoril was ruined too. It's not the circuit of 1996... where we saw the Great Jacques pulling a pass on the outside of MS...
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Old 7 Nov 2002, 20:22 (Ref:424093)   #15
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Estoril was ruined too. It's not the circuit of 1996... where we saw the Great Jacques pulling a pass on the outside of MS...

Great drive that day by Jacques. I say he found the absolute limit of his ability that day, as he reeled in his teammate Damon from half a minute down. Rather like Fangio at Nurburgring '57.
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Old 7 Nov 2002, 22:05 (Ref:424153)   #16
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Tough to compare, YM. And it's coming from a hardcore JV fan.
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Old 8 Nov 2002, 20:26 (Ref:424812)   #17
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Great drive that day by Jacques. I say he found the absolute limit of his ability that day, as he reeled in his teammate Damon from half a minute down. Rather like Fangio at Nurburgring '57.
I couldn't agree more.In my opinion,it has been his best drive in Formula One to date.He was under serious pressure to beat Damon, which he needed to do to keep his title hopes alive.He not only beat Damon,he had pulled off one of the most outstanding moves ever seen.

A quote from Jonathan Palmer,who called the race along with Murray Walker:

"That overtaking manoeuvre was one of the most outstanding I have ever seen."

Another point I'd like to add is that this was one of the races in which Villeneuve didn't have to spend much of his sessions learning the track.As I'm sure you are aware of the fact that Villeneuve and Damon Hill had many days of testing at Estoril,due to the Williams team testing there quite frequently before the season started.

Farc,

If I had my choice between Estoril and Jerez I'd have to race held at Jerez.I have good memories of both.

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Estoril was ruined when they made the stupid tight hairpin thats just before the last turn.

Take the track back to how that part of the track was in 1993 and F1 would have a good race.
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Old 9 Nov 2002, 00:12 (Ref:424903)   #19
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How can they ruin circuits? Can't the people see they have completely ruined any challenge? Jeez is ****ess me off when circuits are carved up like this.

Estoril was safe. Why did they cut it up?

Idiots.
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Old 9 Nov 2002, 19:34 (Ref:425248)   #20
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Estoril was safe. Why did they cut it up?

£££. 'Nuff said.
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Old 14 Nov 2002, 20:20 (Ref:428723)   #21
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Is good so go go go

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Old 15 Nov 2002, 01:13 (Ref:428909)   #22
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Michael pulled an incredible passing manoeuvre out of the sleeve on Damon Hill at Estoroil. I think it was in 1995(or 1994?) . It's one of my favourite (overtakings). The first corner was very good - I take it in sixth gear on my F1 simulator. But it's better to have 17 than 16 races. Then Ferrari can take more victories.

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Old 15 Nov 2002, 12:05 (Ref:429124)   #23
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I'd Love it for Estoril to be back, i'd probably arrange my holidays around it...
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How can they ruin circuits? Can't the people see they have completely ruined any challenge? Jeez is ****ess me off when circuits are carved up like this.

Estoril was safe. Why did they cut it up?

Idiots.

I have noticed that stupid philosophy too. How someone can blame a track when it all happens because of people? Jim Clark, for example, died because of people's mistake and not "because of the evil track" like I read in some stupid archives. That way of thinking and turning people to track-bashers has killed some of the best tracks in F1.

As for Estoril, what if they did it because of the race in 1996? It was, like, too interesting. I mean, someone did the impossible and since everyone of creme de la creme in F1 hates him....

I am in a really bad mood today, really.

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Old 18 Nov 2002, 23:02 (Ref:431800)   #25
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Maybe the real reason is because sponsors of teams want slow corners all over the tracks so the cameras can show their logos more clearly?
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